Sam Harris explains why Trump is a dangerous candidate.

[Normchacho]

plip.plop said:

Normchacho said:

 

"The vast majority of these people are simply doing jobs that most Americans don't want to do. So now look around you, look at the nanny's and housekeepers you meet in the world. If you have young kids you might meet a lot of these people. Now imagine all of them who are undocumented rounded up and deported, inevitably at gunpoint. Because if you did most of these people don't want to go as most of them won't. You're talking about the threat of deadly force knocking on the door, that's what these operations would look like. We're talking about the people that bus tables at your favorite restaraunt, the guys you see working at a carwash, people who pick fruit. People by the millions who do productive work that Americans simply by and large do not want to do, and many of these people have kids who are American citizens.

So now we're talking about breaking up families. What does that look like? What does it look like to send the mother of a four year old American citizen back to Mexico? How many tens of thousands of people would fall into that precise situation under this policy and how many hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers would be required to enact it? We're talking about a terrifying authoritarian intrusion into our lives to bring this off. For the point of what? to get rid of rapists? No, to get rid of nannies."

This argument irritates me more than anything. Yes, most Americans don't want to do that job at those wages. 

You are allowing business to get away with not hiring or paying regular wages to Americans and instead exploit these people. It's fucking slave labor and to allow them to stay here under such horrible living conditions.

Who's going to do the job if their gone is everyone's concern, yet no one cares about how most of them live now.   Why is it when this argument is made it's always who's going to pick the fruit, clean your toilets, etc... I'm sure this was the same argument slave owners made as justification to keep their slaves. People just want to keep their slaves, but now just want to act like they care about them. 

Also the rounding up of illegals at gunpoint already happened in the 90's It was done by Hillary's husband Bill with the little Cuban boy Elian. Did this jackhole already forget that?

You're missing the point. He isn't saying "who's going to pick our fruit and clean the toilets?" He's saying "Why do we need to deport these people and pull apart their families if they're just picking fruit and cleaning toilets?"

In fact, most people who are against deporting them believe that there should be a path for legal residency for the people who are here which would mean the could fall under the sale labor laws as everybody else.

Elian Gonzalez was returned to Cuba at his fathers request. What are you talking about?