PES 2017 meta score: 90

[Ruler]

Faelco said:

Ruler said:

and this is Good, what has Konami to do with anything?

It's pretty obvious why anyone could hate Konami and miss their game. "Fuck Konami" has basically been the trending sentence for several years now...

And PES 2015 seemed good too at first, but infuriating after a while because of a lot of limitations or other bad points (AI, physics...) which don't always appear in the reviews.

yeah but why do you hate konami? Because they dont make many videogames anymore. So why hating on the thing you want from them? it doesnt make any sense. 

Ka-pi96 said:

Ruler said:

it has better gameplay and graphics over FiFA, always did

Maybe to you, but from what I've played FIFA was miles ahead.

How ?