Face it. It is over. Trump won.

[MikeRox]

Fei-Hung said:

MikeRox said:

Id streer clear of the canary if you want an objective view on politics, you are pretty much buying into the left side mirror of the right that you deteste. Breitbart would be their peer. Not even the mail, sun, mirror or express are as bad.

 

That was not "quietly put out" during #traingate. It was a flipping manifesto pledge in 2015 and lo behold they won that election so were expected to go through with it.

Replacing one bill of rights with another, is not the same thing as "scrapping human rights". Just like stopping full freedom of movement is not the same as no migration.

At the moment there is a right battle going on for the hearts and minds in the UK. One side says we're free and will rule the world over again, the other says we're doomed to making places like Zimbabwe more affluent than us.

 

It has been very eye opening as to just how hysterical and gullible both sides of the arguments "followers" are.

 

As for the US and Trump... I still don't think it's likely he will win. Whether it is Hillary on the ballot paper at the time remains to be seen. I think if polls turn against her in the coming weeks she will be begged to reconsider her position.

If Trump does win, he is going to be the most impotent president the US has ever has and will be so moderated it is like he is on ritalin. Both houses will be keeping tabs on everything. And if they do lose grip, assassination wouldn't surprise me.

 

The real issue on both brexit and the US election is, what are political classes going to now do to gain some credibility. Decades of complacency is crashing down on them and they have no idea how to deal with it.

Right wing it not, and whether it is was snuck in or not, the fact remains that she is wanting to scrap / replace the human rights act with something that will give her / the government more power and rights over an individuals freedom. They essentially are essentially saying they have the rights to sell any of your data that they can gather to any of their partners. Unlike Facebook,  Google etc there is mo option of not signing up other than staying of the internet completely. 

 

Naturally, this will also impair ones right to freedom of speech as it will allow the government to single out anyone they don't like for having a different view / opinion and then pick them, their friends and family  apart from what they can find.

 

As fictional as V for Vendetta was, this is where Britain will be heading towards if she gets her way. And as crazy as it may seem or foil hat worthy, why create such laws of not to use them. 

 

It was an election manifesto pledge. Like it or not people actually voted for it. The outcry would actually be if they DIDN'T go through with it.

A lot of people it would seem were rather upset that it took years of legal wrangling to try and deport suspected terrorists.

It's kinda similar to what successive governments have unleashed in attitudes towards immigration.

Head in sand ignore concerns. Tell everyone what they don't like is actually good for them and they just don't understand, then wonder wtf voters suddenly reject them.

 

The biggest problem really is Labour. They are currently about as useful as a used tampon and falling to provide any coherent opposition to scrutinise what the Tories are doing.

I suspect to some extent, the lib dems tempered the Tories last time around. I was hopeful of another coalition this time around.

I do think there were some things needed revisiting in our human rights act, the problem is the current labour party situation is just giving carte blanche to do whatever.