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Intrinsic said:
barneystinson69 said:

Probably because there isn't much stock. But the standard price is $200.

Lol.... ok. so at 1.1GHz the polaris 10 GPU gives you 5.1TF. 

To get that up to 6TF you would need to overclock it to 1.33Ghz.... I'm sure you are telling yourself that doesn't sound like much. But consider these...

This is the exact same GPU sony is using in the Pro. And built with the exact same 14nm process it's going to be built with next year. AMD (who makes the GPU) sends them out clocked at 1.1Ghz, and that's just a GPU. If you can successfully clock it up to 1.2Hz you get a little over 5.5TF. But as reviews have shown, it's almost impossible to get it that high. 

Sony chose to use the same GPU in question but clocked it down to 910mhz, yet you somehow believe that MS is gonna not only do what AMD could't, but do it while the GPU is sharing the same silicon with a CPU?

Unless the scorpio is using something other than Polaris 10, it's not going to hit 6TF. 5TF most likely but not 6TF. And for it to even hit that five they would need to seperate the cpu and GPU meaning they won't go with an APU design anymore. The heat from a CPU just won't allow you run the GPU at too high a clock in an APU design. 

The pcper article also says there's some creative accounting when it comes to AMD's clock speeds. AMDs base clock, according to the article is the average clock under typical uses, and the "boost" clock is the factory maximum. With NVIDIA the "base clock" is the minimum clock speed, and the "boost" clock is the average that is achieved under typical use conditions. I'm not techhie but that probably means it's harder to "overclock" beyond AMD's publioshed specs than it is to overclock an NVIDIA card. It also suggests that PS4Ps "downclock" to 910 is likely to be the 480's unpublished minimum clock.

Question: Are there any advantages to running a GPU at minimum or average clock vs maximum/overclock? I assume a GPU needs to work with all other components of teh system, which means it's operating speeds need to be in sync with CPU etc. So is PS4P going with the (probable) minimum clock more about how the GPU needs to operate in sync with the CPU than there being any inherent benefit to operating at minimum? I assume higher clock means more heat, but that shouldn't matter if you have decent cooling/venting.



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