Why the Scorpio will sell for no more than $399 (if its 6tflops).

[barneystinson69]

Hiku said:

barneystinson69 said:

You need to keep in mind that we don't know how much Microsoft is getting these parts for. The PS4 Pro is the best way to estimate how much the Scorpio will be, as the only differences will be the GPU and RAM. If Microsoft were going for a "different audience", then Microsoft wouldn't only put 6Tflops of graphical power into the Scorpio. As I've said, Microsoft needs to compete with Sony. Making their console $499 will guarentee it fails. Maybe we can wager for it ;)

Their plans for Scorpio likely started years ago. None of them had done something like this before, so why do you assume they based their plans around what Sony would do, when they probably didn't expect Sony to make a Pro? As far as everyone was concerned, Sony would release PS4 Slim, and then PS5. MS should have assumed no differently.
Which means MS intended to do something different than the competition, and that's why they're aiming at a different type of customer.
They didn't expect the Pro, so they assumed it would be 6Tflops vs 1.8 Tflops. They wouldn't need to go higher than 6Tf.
They also knew how successful PS4 would be at an earloy stage, so there would be less rush for Sony to end the generation early and release PS5, giving MS some time with Scorpio.

As for "Only difference is GPU and RAM". A GPU alone can make all the difference. You know that. Do you know what the cheapest GPU is today that can run new games in both 4K and 60fps?
Speaking of how much MS will pay for the parts, we don't know that. Maybe that will be a factor. But so far, MS has sold inferior tech to the PS4, for the same price as PS4. At least they started off that way, and graduately lowered the price. So I'm not so confident about them finding great deals in relation to what their engineers develop.

What would the wager be? I'm not opposed to the idea of MS changing their plans after they've seen the Pro, and observing its sales. But I trust EG enough to expect that they'd have to lower the specs of the Scorpio if they intend to sell it at a lower price.

As I've said, one year is a lot of time. Prices will go down. Anyway, how about 6 months of avatar control? Keep in mind that the specs have to remain relatively the same as what we know of. So if Microsoft decides to upgrade the hardware at the last second, it doesn't count.