Hiku said:
barneystinson69 said:
My point being is why would Microsoft release a console for $500 when its competitor will be 100-150$ cheaper. The CPU is still Jaguar, and the only upgrades are going to be to the RAM and GPU. I don't see where the extra $100 is coming from.
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Hardware wise, Eurogamer expects it'll cost them at least $100 more. I'd trust their analysis more unless you can show why your analysis is more reliable. Saying that "tech goes down in price" or "it's still Jaguar" when they are accounting for this in the article isn't an argument against their analysis. And considering that not many expected Pro to retail for $400 and omit the 4K BD drive, that could mean they estimated Scorpio to cost at least 150-200 more. If you google "xbox scorpio price", the first four articles that came up speculating the price (besides Eurogamer's) all speculate above $600 or $700. I don't ´know how trustworthy they are compared to EG, but it seems to be a common estimate.
You ask why they would sell it at such a price when their competitor sells theirs for $400. The answer is a different target audience. The Pro is not targeted at people who want the absolute top of the line specs, but rather those who are put off by console performance mid generation and instead look towards PC gaming. Scorpio sounds like it intends to target those who normally aren't interested in console cycles at any point in time, even when they first launch due to their specs.
Of course, I don't know what MS expected Sony would sell the Pro for, but their plans for Scorpio probably started long before they even heard rumors of it. Maybe seeing what Sony are doing now will change their minds. But as far as the hardware cost is concerned for the Scorpio bnased on what we know of it so far, I don't see a particular reason to doubt EG's estimate.
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You need to keep in mind that we don't know how much Microsoft is getting these parts for. The PS4 Pro is the best way to estimate how much the Scorpio will be, as the only differences will be the GPU and RAM. If Microsoft were going for a "different audience", then Microsoft wouldn't only put 6Tflops of graphical power into the Scorpio. As I've said, Microsoft needs to compete with Sony. Making their console $499 will guarentee it fails. Maybe we can wager for it ;)
Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).