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Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

Again, a tangent. It doesan't matter what other reasons you bring up. Fact is blu ray added a lot to the cost and it took away a lot of the cost of the 360. If they had swapped the blu ray from the 360 to the ps3 the adjusted prices would have made a big diffference. 

I'm not arguing whether getting blu ray was a good thing for sony or not. we were talking about Sony were the guys who pushed the cd, the dvd, the blu ray. Microsoft did none of these. it's only fair they push UHD. They're long overdue. 

No you're wrong. I am saving a consumer. I get a ps4 pro for the amazing price of $399. I don't want to be paying extra for things i don't want. 

The 360 didnt have a super processor like the Cell or Bluray because they very expensive. The entry model didnt even have a HDD.

But the X1 S does have UHD because it appears to be a relatively cheap part. You would think Sony would add UHD for at reason.

People arent paying extra for UHD in the X1 S though. I feel like youre missing that simple point. If Scorpio is more than 399, its because of that sexy beastly GPU. But you'll probably argue consumers dont need all those tflops.

So where was the outcry when the 360 didn't include a HDD or wifi?  *spoiler alert* there wasn't.  

 

Relatively cheap?  if the xbox slim didn't have it I bet it would retail at 249. Fact is it costs a margin extra and considering the ps4's beastly sales that margin turns into hundreds of millions.  Microsoft can afford to lose that.  They've billions just lying around waiting to be spent.  Sony can't,  they have to run the business smart.  Not cater to a tiny niche. Cater to the masses.  And keep on winning.