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Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

No you're conveniently ignoring the fact the ps3 went with blu ray when others didn't. We can shift the goalposts to CPU and GPU but we're talking about blu ray drives so why go off on a tangent?  

If xbox 360 went with a blu ray drive and so did the Wii but the ps3 didn't,  they both would have sold less and the ps3 sold more.  It didn't help Sony as much as it damaged them.  And it helped their opposition. 

The mass market didn't care then and this gen the mass market will care even less.  UHD is more niche then blu ray was then.  

Good job Sony.  Cater for the masses and not a small percentage.  Saving us money.  I appreciate that because with so many awesome games and psvr coming,  every little helps. 

Its not a tangent, teh Cell was really expensive. PS3 would have benefited from getting rid of that more than Bluray. It was a useless expensive piece of tech in the PS3, a less expensive x86 would have made more sense then getting rid of Bluray. The Cell is also the biggest reason PS4 doesn't have BC.

Not having Bluray would have been best for Playstation 3, but would have slowed down Bluray's adoption rate. In retrospect, maybe Bluray was a bad idea PS3 given Playstation matters more to Sony. But people will argue getting Bluray off the ground was very important. Either way, if UHD was expensive it wouldn't be in X1 S.

Sony is saving money, not you. More value doesn't always come with a higher price for consumers.

Again, a tangent. It doesan't matter what other reasons you bring up. Fact is blu ray added a lot to the cost and it took away a lot of the cost of the 360. If they had swapped the blu ray from the 360 to the ps3 the adjusted prices would have made a big diffference. 

I'm not arguing whether getting blu ray was a good thing for sony or not. we were talking about Sony were the guys who pushed the cd, the dvd, the blu ray. Microsoft did none of these. it's only fair they push UHD. They're long overdue. 

No you're wrong. I am saving a consumer. I get a ps4 pro for the amazing price of $399. I don't want to be paying extra for things i don't want.