| Rêveur said: People are being really dense, or quite frankly, stupid. Did you start buying DVDs before owning a DVD player? Did you start buying blu-rays before having a blu-ray player and HD TV? So why ask if people have been buying 4K blurays if they don't own a 4K blu-ray player and 4K capable TV, and if not, why they should care about there being a 4K bluray player? To this day, my PS3 and PS4 remain my ONLY blu-ray players. I've never had a blu-ray player in a computer or have never had a standalone one. As have been said, a 4K stream will never compare with a 4K bluray. If Sony were so convinced about a streaming and digital future, why even include a blu-ray drive? Why not make the PS4 Pro completely digital? Sony is not only a game constructor but also a TV constructor. If they wanted to encourage people to upgrade to 4K TVs, having a 4K PS4 would be a huge help. I just feel like Sony is being really stupid and short-sighted. It seems they've gone the Microsoft way in prematurely thinking it's time to go all-digital and all-streaming. That might happen one day, but not right now. Whatever. I'll be saving up for a Scorpio. |
I did actually by DVDs, Blu-rays and HD-DVDs before being able to play them. I first paid $400 for an early DVD drive to watch DVD on pc before buying an $800 early standalone player. Bought the HD-DVD add-on for 360 and the ps3 on launch to watch those movies.
This time I'm not buying early 4K movies though. The source material simply isn't there. The upgrade to scanning 35mm movies in 4K is very small and pretty much all digitally made movies from 2000 till very recently are limited with 2k masters and/or 2.8k footage. HDR is not something to simply add to old movies either. Max brightness in cinemas was 14Fl, 48 nits, not 1000 nits that HDR specifies.
There's no big advance in sound either. Blu-ray came with lossless sound, good step up from lossy dolby digital. I would have liked 96khz and 192khz tracks for 4K, the few blu-rays that have that sound phenomenal. Instead we only get more channels and object based sounds (dolby atmos). I don't have room for more speakers but do have a fully capable 192khz amp that gives me goosebumps when used properly. (Akira sounds so good)
There aren't any advantages to extras either on 4K releases. There are actually less extras and/or you have to swap discs to the included blu-ray version to access them.
4K blu-ray feels like the new Laserdisc to me. I'll get it at some point when I can afford to upgrade my projector. Yet I'm far far less excited this time than when DVD and Blu-ray got out. And that's from someone with over 600 dvds and over 500 blu-rays. There's a handful 70mm movies I would like on 4K, that's about it so far. The only advantage I see atm is less compression artifacts than regular blu-ray and better color resolution. (HDR doesn't work on projectors)
Whatever indeed. Maybe next year. Too early to buy a 4K tv with HDR still a moving target and 4K projectors are $8k and more. Scorpio might be coming at the right time. As a videophile I'm simply not impressed after reading 4K UHD disc reviews.
