Pachter: If the NX flops, Nintendo will still have 9.5 Billion dollars in the bank (They have 10 last time Pachter checked)

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potato_hamster said:

 

So you think Valve took that mod as it was, and just released it all willy-nilly on consoles under their own brand? Because that's not what happened at all. In both of those cases, they pretty much re-wrote most of the game from scratch to build them to their standards, and went through a similar process to get them certified on consoles. It's almost like that's exactly what I said Nintendo would need to do for these fan projects...

Perhaps you should watch the video where Gabe wen't and took a look at Left 4 Dead then picked it up. It would explain most of what you are asking, it's probably on youtube somewhere.

potato_hamster said:

Which they won't, because it requires almost as much effort as making your own first party games yourself. You're still not getting it, are you?

On what planet does that even make sense?
Getting someone else to make games for free is more effort than making it yourself?

That's like saying that you are getting a contractor to build your house is more work than building it yourself, it's nuts.

potato_hamster said:

How do you think hackers and modders get custom firmware on consoles?

There is no real way to answer this as every hack/mod attempt that has given hackers access to custom firmware on consoles has actually been different.
And often consoles will undergo hardware revisions to get around that.

But if you think every console hack/firmware crack has been the result of a software flaw, then you are greatly mistaken.

Nintendo can create a "walled garden" that restricts access to core componetns of the OS and only expose vital parts like the API, this is how Microsoft does it actually. Funny that, huh?

potato_hamster said:

Nintendo don't want anyone to ever install their own OS on their platforms. 

They really don't have a choice in the matter.

potato_hamster said:

In fact Sony removed the ability to install Linux on the PS3 because there was a exploitable aspect to how that feature worked that they could not patch.

We aren't talking complete access to an OS here.
And the PS3 OS had vulnerabilities because Sony didn't support it all that well, not to mention at the time their security was laughable at best. (I.E. The great PSN hack ring a bell?)
If you think that is representatitive of Nintendo curating games, then you are greatly mistaken.

The fact that you are even justifying Nintendo's attacks on it's greatest fans says allot.

potato_hamster said:

Scaremongering? Hardly. In fact I guarantee that if Nintendo started a program such as thing, hackers/modders would be looking at ways to to put "a wolf in sheep's clothing" through the system. It would be incredibly easy to do if Nintendo isn't combing over the code to make sure it all checks out.

Microsoft has been very successfull in not allowing for malicious stuff on the Xbox, despite having tools that are cheap and easy to access to build games for the platform. - They don't look at every line of code in a game before release either do they?

Heck. Steam does the same thing, thousands and thousands (More than any other platform) of games are released on Steam, but your scaremongering hasn't come to fruition on that platform either.

potato_hamster said:

Like how Microsoft shut down Halogen? Or how Sony/Activision shut down that fan-made Crash Bandicoot game? Or how Sega shut down that Streets of Rage fan game? Or Konami shut down that Metal Gear Solid remake? Or How Square Enix shut down that Chrono Trigger Fan project?

Literally everyone in the industry does this. Kinda odd that you're going after Nintendo when the main reason they shut down so many fan made games is because most notable fan made games that come to the surface feature Nintendo IPs.

If another company (I criticised Blizzard for the EXACT SAME THING) shuts down a fan project and I disagree with it, I will voice my opinion.

However, this isn't a thread that is about other company's is it? It's about Nintendo. Not Sony, not Microsoft, not Blizzard... But Nintendo, so it's obvious my "attack" will be focused on Nintendo rather than some other comapny isn't it?

I will attack any and all platforms regardless of the company that owns it, I criticsed the Xbox for it's update procedures about half an hour ago... A few days ago I critcised Sony for various aspects relating to the Playstation, I'm not blind and I am not biased to any console platform, so don't assume otherwise.

potato_hamster said:

You really don't understand Intellectual Property rights if you think that taking in any type of income while using another company's IP isn't incredibly illegal. It doesn't matter if its only covering costs. It doesn't matter if you're only breaking even. It doesn't matter if you donate any extra money to make to charity. It's still illegal.

You have every right to disagree about whether or not it should be legal, but that doesn't change the reality that it is.

I do fully understand Intellectual Property Rights, but you have obviously missed my point completely and taken everything out of context.