Pachter: If the NX flops, Nintendo will still have 9.5 Billion dollars in the bank (They have 10 last time Pachter checked)

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sethnintendo said:

Maybe Nintendo is trying to look after their IPs.  Should they be nice?  Just don't put your fan made shit on the net to share with everyone and they won't fuck with you.

Nintendo *should* look after it's Intellectual Property. But they could also do so without crapping on their fan base.
Remember these are some of Nintendo's biggest fans that they are attacking.

Acevil said:

What I want to know is do you think fan projects deserve money? You do know how trademark works right? You also know the Nintendo strongest asset is these IPs, and what happens if Nintendo does not enforce trademarks? 

Also many companies defend their trademark, namely when their IP name is used. Chrono fan projects get shot down like that.

It really depends.
I mean if you make a fan project and you host it on your own servers, then there is substantual costs involved and that should at the very least be covered with say... Advertising or donations.

Again, other companies have not shut down fan projects, they have invested time and money and gave the fan community attention. (Blizzard for instance, tends to be typically good at this, minus the Overwatch confuffle.)

Nintendo could curate these fan projects, put them under the Nintendo banner and foster their biggest fans instead of attacking them, they will then remove any IP issues and their community would thrive.

potato_hamster said:

You're right. Nintendo isn't nice.  But that's the only thing you're right about.

They still aren't buying and publishing fan projects ever. They really can't do that and it's ridiculous to think so.


It doesn't matter when Nintendo shut them down, those fans started those projects knowing that the would never be allowed to release them freely. And the point remains, it doesn't matter how polished they may appear, the underpinnings of the game could be incredibly unstable, poorly written, incredibly unsecure. What if it turns out that buried deep in the code is a virus that infects the consoles the game are played on, and suddenly Wii Us every where start displaying hardcore porn periodically after the game has been installed for 30 days? Or, any of the other malicious things that can be done when a properly licensed game is ran legally on consoles? That would be on Nintendo. Nintendo simply cannot support these projects in any capacity, much less publish and support them. They would spend almost as much time combing through the game to certify and fix it than the would just making it themselves. It's just so silly to think they might do that.

You can ask anyone here that I'm not exactly a big fan of Nintendo, but this is different. Sony would shut down a fan-made Ratchet and Clank game. Microsoft would shut down a fan made Forza game. Nintendo is doing what any other company in their position would do. You can knock them all you want for shutting down let's plays and youtube videos. It's terrible that they do that. But there's a world of difference about making IP claims on Nintendo videos and shutting down Pokemon Uranium.

I disagree. And you have obviously missed the point of it all.

potato_hamster said:

Nintendo cannot and will not support fan projects. The simply can't do it. Your comparison to valve is a bit of a silly one. What valve-sanctioned mods (which, by the way is different than an independant release) have been published by valve and released on consoles? I'm almost positive the answer to that is 'none'. Supporting mods, and supporting independant releases that may or may not be built using engines that Nintendo develops and understands are two different things.

Those mods that ended up on consoles that you assume don't exist? Ever heard of Counterstrike?
Shall I name some more? ;)

Hows about Left 4 Dead? That started life also as a mod.

You have titles like The Stanley Parable as well, but they never went to console... And many games that weren't a Source mod but started out as Unreal Tournament/Quake mods.

potato_hamster said:

What if it turns out that buried deep in the code is a virus that infects the consoles the game are played on, and suddenly Wii Us every where start displaying hardcore porn periodically after the game has been installed for 30 days?
Or, any of the other malicious things that can be done when a properly licensed game is ran legally on consoles? That would be on Nintendo. Nintendo simply cannot support these projects in any capacity, much less publish and support them. They would spend almost as much time combing through the game to certify and fix it than the would just making it themselves. It's just so silly to think they might do that.

It's called "curation". - You obviously don't give anyone access to the underpinnings of your device... Microsoft and Sony sure haven't and they have fairly open development ecosystems.
This is just scaremongering.

potato_hamster said:

You can ask anyone here that I'm not exactly a big fan of Nintendo, but this is different. Sony would shut down a fan-made Ratchet and Clank game. Microsoft would shut down a fan made Forza game. Nintendo is doing what any other company in their position would do. You can knock them all you want for shutting down let's plays and youtube videos. It's terrible that they do that. But there's a world of difference about making IP claims on Nintendo videos and shutting down Pokemon Uranium.

If Microsoft and Sony did the exact same thing and started shutting down fan projects (They don't tend to do this)
I would also be giving them ridicule, if you hadn't noticed I am fairly vocal when it comes to all the consoles.