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CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:

I don't think any of those are really comparable, specifically not to the Scorpio. Looking at history we can't ignore that the transition to PS4/X1 saw 2 years worth of cross platform games, that in itself is a new normal. How many GBA games were released alongside a GB Color version. How many PS2 games were released alongside a PS3 version, day and date? The industry has fundementally changed going forward and cross generational games became the norm. In the case of the Scorpio, the 4x difference in power is far more dramatic a change then any of the incremimental hardware updates Shadow1980  referenced. Practically speaking how much more powerful is the X2 going to have to be to justify excluiding Scorpio hardware support? Prior generations have typically been seperated by a factor of 8x or more.Even if we cut that in half, I don't see Microsoft bring out a 24TFLOP system at the turn of the decade at a $399 price point.

No matter what criteria you use, the idea is the same (or similar enough to work, here). Mid-gen changes/upgrades are not new and this is no different (the 32-bit era always comes to mind as the closest to waht this gen is seeing). Granted, this certainly is a different flavor, but the same principle and rules apply.

The one main difference is Microsoft and Sony's narratives tagged to these upcoming machines. One sees the end of gens, while the calls it what it is - a mid-gen upgrade.

Frankly, I think Microsoft should skip the whole "Scorpio" thing and jump fully into the 9th generation (meaning - considerably more than a 6TF console). That way, it would have been 4 years since the X1's release and they could get a good jump start on Sony (much like what helped the 360 see its early successes).

Yeah, I don't think we dissagree. Its an evolution more than a revolution. Although I think the difference in Sony and MS semantics is reflective of their intentions. I should have really responded to Shadow980 who's statement I was really responding to

"Also, they're not going to be part of a new normal, I don't care what some people's crystal balls are telling them. Odds are, they're going to be one-off things, likely brought about by VR and 4K, things that the the base-model PS4 & XBO (which were not as big of a jump in power as previous generations) couldn't do. Console cycles exist for very good reasons, and attempting to disrupt that could have hugely negative effects on the industry. There's no point in radical shifts in the status quo when the status quo is still healthy. Don't fix what isn't broken."

The mere existence of a mid gen update as powerful as Scorpio is in itself a disruption to the console cycle and throws into question the significane of an Xbox2 (how much more power can it offer?)....and I agree with you that Microsoft should skip Scorpio and release the Xbox1's successor/ the PS5's competitor.