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FragilE^ said:
DonFerrari said:

Try raising the taxes for corporations and see what happens, just to remember, even a self employed is a corporation for governments when they want to tax.

Where have they been successful? As far as I know several countries in europe (France being a big case) have failed really hard when doing tax on the wealth because they are either capable of evading by sending money to other countries or just leaving the country... and just to remember that is basically what happened to USA industry, wages and taxes escalated and jobs gone to Asia.

Socialism is a dream, it destroyed several countries, so for this we have empiric results of how it work in reality. So between individual negotiations (which I have been successfull so far) and socialism and leaving my power to another to use I choose the first.

Guess how many big corporations we have in (tax loving) Sweden. Did you guess zero? Good job :)

Companies in Brazil try their hardest to survive in our tax loving, return hating country, and we still have big corporations, but far less than countries were being a businessman isn't looked as something evil.

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

And then we go to the, does it have more unions because it have more wealth or is wealth created by unions?? I wouldn't bet on the second. And you were talking north versus south, not west vs east... and as far as I remember California is more to the south than to the north.

In the US, the major regions do not correspond exactly to the directional terminology they represent.  See the map linked below:
http://thomaslegion.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/map_of_usa_regions_by_us_census_bureau.jpg

It gets confusing to foreigners.  Hell, it's confusing to many of us.  It's all based on what the regions were called as the US was growing (read: stealing land) rather than how it is now.  Nobody here would say California (especially not as far north as San Fransisco and San Jose) was part of the south.

I see, my bad. I stand corrected on the internal division, but on the unions concentration I stand that it's almost certain that unions go after richier regions to demand more money than they create value themselves.

Final-Fan said:
DonFerrari, you betray your ignorance of American culture. When people talk about the American South, they don't mean west of Texas. Think more like the old Confederacy.

I guess I have a little better understanding of USA geography (and perhaps culture) than you have from Brazil, so I'm not betraying I'm exposing. But geographically speaking California is in the south half of the country, or southwest of the country. I have no fault that besides using imperial measurement system you also can't use a compass.



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