So the Scorpio....

[drkohler]

Pemalite said:

The Xbox One's chip for instance, despite being larger than the PS4's is likely cheaper to produce due to the sRAM being a relatively simple, repeating structure.

drkohler said:

Basically a SoC in a console cannot be cooled (economically) once it passes maybe 140W(?), An 8core Zen supposedly draws aruond 90W, a 6TF AMD gpu around 120W so that just douesn't compute at this time.

Who came up with that silly idea? There isn't a real limit on effective cooling for a console.
You could just throw a copper vapor chamber cooler with several 140mm fans at the problem.

PC GPU's have been able to handle TDP's almost triple that, whilst also being relatively silent and in a smaller form factor just fine for years.

The XBoX SoC is certainly more expensive than the PS4 SoC. You can come from different directions, arguing by "you pay by transistor count" - and the X1 SoC has a lot more transistors. And unlike you seem to think, esram is tricky to manufacture (there is a reason not every foundry can do it). You can argue with "layers". Here again the X1 SoC is more expensive as has more metal layers than the PS4 due to its complex memory paths connecting anything with almost anything.

You would also have the explain your definition of economically - "just throw a copper vapor chamber cooler with several 140mm fans" certainly doesn't do the job so you have to try harder.

"PC GPU's have... " - we are not talking about $1000 oddjob pc graphic cards.