| Werix357 said: I think what the NX will be compared to will depend on how Nintendo markets it, if they market it primarily as a mobile gaming device then it wil be compared with the 3DS, Vita and iPad (and its clones). And comparing movie and music subscription services with games doesn't quite work as subscription services for movies music etc, can be accessed through a multitude of devices where games are limited to certain devices. |
People are already comparing it to the XBox One and PS4. Nintendo has been in the dedicated console market so long that it'd be hard for people not to view it as a competitor. It's possible, but Nintendo would have to work really hard to change the perception that it's a PS4/XBox One rival.
I don't think the fact that it's one device really makes a difference. Obviously the model will have to be different, but it's very possible, and it will happen sooner or later.
zorg1000 said
A large quantity, many of which that are also of high quality. Reasonable enough definition? Alright, that peticular game may be shovelware but doesnt really change my overall point. How are you going to claim a game cant attract new players by improving, to keep Fire Emblem as an example you do realize the 3DS entries have sold over double the amount of any of their predeccessors? Yes, and Uncharted 4/Halo 5 would have looked better if PS4/XBO were as powerful as high end PCs, i guess those systems/games are gimped as well. Nintendo wants to sell their hardware to as many people as they can but they dont care if people also own a seperate device. Nintendo isnt going to try stealing sales from iPhone or PS4, they are going to try getting iPhone/PS4 owners to also get an NX. Coexist, not compete. 360 was supposedly sold for a big loss initially, early estimates put it at about $125 loss per unit back in 2005. So yes Nintendo would have had to sell Wii for $400+ if it had comparable hardware to 360. If you really believe that Nintendo releasing PS4 level hardware while using a subscription service for their entire library is a viable option 7 months from now than go for it, im sure 3rd parties will totally get behind that idea for all their new games. |
A large quantity, many of which that are also of high quality. Reasonable enough definition?
It's reasonable, but not objective. Large and high quality are subjective terms. For opinions, it works fine. If you want to say it's a fact, it doesn't work.
How are you going to claim a game cant attract new players by improving, to keep Fire Emblem as an example you do realize the 3DS entries have sold over double the amount of any of their predeccessors?
We were talking about strictly improving visuals. Fire Emblem has gone through other changes to make it more accessible, and it had much better marketing. I don't think people bought it for the improved graphics. Path of Radiance had much better graphics than its predecessors, as did Shadow dragon and it didn't help either of them too much.
Moreover, we're talking about selling consoles, and not games. Convincing someone who already plays games like Zelda to spend 40 dollars to try fire emblem is one thing. Convincing someone who doesn't play Nintendo games to spend 3-400 dollars on a new console is another matter.
Yes, and Uncharted 4/Halo 5 would have looked better if PS4/XBO were as powerful as high end PCs, i guess those systems/games are gimped as well.
Eh... bad analogy, but let's roll with it. Do you expect the NX to be several hundred dollars cheaper than the XBox One or PS4?
Nintendo wants to sell their hardware to as many people as they can but they dont care if people also own a seperate device. Nintendo isnt going to try stealing sales from iPhone or PS4, they are going to try getting iPhone/PS4 owners to also get an NX. Coexist, not compete.
I don't know how you can make a system that is appealing to the PS4's market without competing with it. If the NX is appealing to current PS4 owners, then it should also be appealing to perspective PS4 owners, and those people would have to make a choice.
360 was supposedly sold for a big loss initially, early estimates put it at about $125 loss per unit back in 2005. So yes Nintendo would have had to sell Wii for $400+ if it had comparable hardware to 360.
Nope. The figure you're using only refers to the version of the 360 with a harddrive. It was more like 75 for the others. But, this was at launch, which was a year before the Wii came out. By the time the Wii came out, Microsoft was actually making money on the 360. About 75 dollars for the version with a harddrive (without factoring in shipping and labor). That means probably around 100 for the harddriveless version.
So, Nintendo could have pretty easily sold it for 300. They could have even still sold it for 250 if they were willing to take the hit, and by a year or so they'd be making a profit. They would have sacrificed a big chunk of the profit they made during the Wii era, but they would have had a much stronger foothold among "hardcore" gamers.
If you really believe that Nintendo releasing PS4 level hardware while using a subscription service for their entire library is a viable option 7 months from now than go for it, im sure 3rd parties will totally get behind that idea for all their new games.
Why wouldn't they? If Nintendo's business was like Netflix, then they wouldn't be selling their games to consumers. They would instead be paid a licensing fee directly from Nintendo. That means that they can guarantee themselves a profit regardless of whether or not anyone buys their games. The risk of porting a game would be basically non-existent. As for whether it's viable, that depends. If Nintendo woke up this morning and had the idea, no. If they'd been working on it for a few years behind the scenes, then yes.
Again, I'm not an expert on the business, so maybe there is something I am missing that would present an issue. At the very least, it would attract a lot of attention. If they could secure third party support, which I don't think would be an issue, even Sony and Microsoft fans would have to consider it.
