Tegra X1 successor Detailed by Nvidia (likely NX SoC)

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zorg1000 said:

JWeinCom said:

Its like saying a $500 hybrid tablet/laptop is gimped because its not as capable as a $1000+ desktop, ya i guess thats technically true but they arent meant to compete directly against one another so the point is moot. "

Aside from the Nintendo fans who were already going to buy the system, who's going to be that excited that Fire Emblem looks better? This is about broadening their appeal.  "Our games look better than they used to but still not nearly as good as other games on the market" isn't going to really help.  One of the Wii U's selling points was "now in HD" but it didn't help all that much.

As for the competition... you do realize you're on a site that has the sales of Nintendo's consoles lined up against Microsoft and Sony regularly? This whole site is pretty much based on the context that they are competitiors.  This isn't like the tablet/PC industry where there are dozens of companies and hundreds of models.  Even if Nintendo is doing something unique like the Wii, there's still a pretty large degree of competition, which we can see by the Kinect and the Move.

I agree that their are benefits of a subscription service and that the gaming model could use a shift but from Nintendo's perspective it doesnt make a whole lot of sense for new games. For example, Breath of the Wild has been in development for about 5 years and is one of the most ambitious and most likely expensive games they have ever made, does it really make financial sense to include that in a subscription service?

Why not?  The average gamer is going to buy somewhere around 10 games for their system (typically less for Nintendo).  More like 6 for a handheld.  Assuming those are all full priced retail releases, that's about 600 dollars in revenue.  If you price the subscription at 25 dollars a month (which I think would be fairly reasonable), then that's going to be 300 dollars a year of revenue.  Assuming you can keep them for two years, that's the same amount of revenue. And of course, if you can keep them longer, that's more revenue.

I would literally bet my life that gaming will primarily use service based delivery within ten years.  I don't have the knowledge to get all the details correct, but it's happening, and if Nintendo could get ahead of it, that'd be huge for them.

Im not gonna argue with you about Nintendo's indie support, 3DS+Wii U has solid indie support, its a fact.

What makes those games shovelware? Because you dont like them? Remember they are for kids, you know like 7 year olds, they arent meant for adults.

Nowhere did I say Fire Emblem in HD will in and of itself cause people to go out and buy an NX, you're beginning to use straw man arguments. What im saying is that nobody is going to look at the new Fire Emblem and think its gimped because it doesnt look as good as The Witcher, it will be a huge improvement over previous entries and that is what matters.

Are you going to try claiming that Mario Kart or Smash Bros are gimped on Wii U because its not as powerful as PS4? Probably not, because they are great games with beautiful visuals.

The fact that this site compares Nintendo to Sony/Microsoft is absolutely irrelevent, Nintendo is not trying to compete directly with them and is looking to coexist with them. A random video game site does not change that.

I agree that its possible that the gaming market will change in the next 10 years to allow for a subscription model, but we are talking about a device set to launch in about 7 months, in which case a subscription model for all games is not a viable solution.

Ya, the only thing different from phones/tablets will be physical controls.........and the software......you know the primary reason to own hardware. Same goes for PS/XB, if NX has close to equal suppport as 3DS+Wii U than it will literally have hundreds of games not available anywhere else.

Ya if Wii had the same horsepower as PS3/360 it would have costed $400+ and development times/budgets would be higher and people would still likely have chosen to play those 3rd party games on PS3/360 just like they chose to play multiplats on PS2/XB instead of GC.

I think what the NX will be compared to will depend on how Nintendo markets it, if they market it primarily as a mobile gaming device then it wil be compared with the 3DS, Vita and iPad (and its clones).

And comparing movie and music subscription services with games doesn't quite work as subscription services for movies music etc, can be accessed through a multitude of devices where games are limited to certain devices.