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You all do realize this is the dumbest arguement ever, right? The fact is both sides are righ, and both sides are wrong. Yes obviously both sides are competeing with one another, but lets be honest here. At a launch of 600 bucks for the PS3 compared to what 250 for the Wii these two consoles were not really competeing with one another. Obviously the system with over a 300 dollar price advantage was going to sell allot more than the expensive one. Yes we can put a pop warner football team on the field with the new England Patriots and call it competition, but i think the goals of each team are very different. As far as price is concerned the Wii is in more competition with the PS2. Yes all 3 consoles are in competition, but I think the goals for each within that competition are very different. I wo8uld say yes if ninty is successfull in truly long term converting these "New gamers" into real continued gamers. Both MS and Sony will be fighting for that market next time around.