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Guitarguy said:

1) The Xbox Scorpio will supposedly have no non-VR exclusive games which will either force much more work on the developers or severely gimp the Scorpio version of the game. Games that run on Scorpio have to run on OG Xbox One(unless I'm mistaken). This will diminish the graphical fidelity of the Scorpio variant games.

2) Even the best current PC GPU cannot handle all 4k games at 60 frames per second and that card alone is worth more than the PS3 was when it first came out(which has other components inside which further inflates the cost of the console)

3) With MS putting alot of their exclusive titles on PC and implementing Xbox Play Anywhere, there is less incentive for PC gamers to get a Scorpio and consumers will have another option to play Xbox games in 4k via PC.

4) Given the cost of the console will probably be close to $1000US, how can it possibly succeed when the PS3 at $599US was simply too much for consumers? That was also considered premium at the time(blu ray drive, 4 USB ports, native PS2 backwards compatibility etc)?

1) Current PC games are made to run on a GTX660 or in machines with SLIs of 1080s. It's a way bigger gap.

2) More like 4K @ 30 fps. It can also run on resolutions like 1600p and upscale it and it would look good.

3) Getting a 4K PC isn't exactly easy. It normally demands SLI and that isn't noob-friendly. And MS ports of their games are definitely subpar. The market also showed pretty clearly that people prefer to play on consoles instead of PC because they lack technical knowledge, so we have a segment of people who don't know how to assemble a PC but want to play on 4K. A lot of guys just play CoD, BF or Fifa and still buy consoles, even if those games are on PC. The sales numbers also tell a similar story. Also, current PC experience on a controller + a big 4K TV is subpar. A lot of situations demand that you grab a mouse + KB and if you play online games, people will have M+KB so you're screwed.

4) It will be probably 600 dollars. Maybe less if they want to take a loss. I don't know from where you got that 1000 bucks number. PS3 failed because you could get a X360 for half the price and the graphics were the same. Scorpio is a second high-end options so, unlike the PS3, it is giving something that is worth the price. However, don't expect that Scorpio and Neo will sell any number close to their respective slim models. They are a niche, high-end option.