So the Scorpio....

[Normchacho]

Snoopy said:

Normchacho said:

A few things.

First off, Your talk about Microsoft having a larger install base than Sony requires some iffy logic to justify and doesn't have anything to do with Scorpio.

Secondly, the Xbox One isn't outpacing the 360. Total sales are ahead, but it's lead has dropped by half a million consoles in the last 12 months and were coming up to a point where 360 sales were very strong.

Between July and the end of 2008 the 360 sold 7,796,789 units while during the same months last year the Xbox One sold 6,268,479 units. Also keep in mind that the Xbox One has been down YoY.

Third. You haven't give a reason as to why someone who didn't want an Xbox One would want the Scorpio.

1. It does have a larger install base technically because of windows gaming which is similar to xbox regarding architecture, api,os,service ect and Microsoft considers it an xbox pretty much.

2. It is still outpacing 360 overall as we speak is it not? Besides, you can't under estimate xbox slim (cheapest 4k blu ray player pretty much and HDR gaming) and of course xbox scropio which will attract hardcore gamers who want the strongest console by a large margin.

3. If you want reasons to buy an xbox scropio it will have the big AAA exclusive console games and new ips. Also the fact is Scorpio will be the most powerful console on the market. Those are two huge reasons to pick up an xbox scorpio. Not to mention Xbox Scorpio will more than likely work with oculus which a lot of people consider the best vr experience by far right now and it will be the cheapest way to experience Oculus. 

1. But counting any and every Windows 10 device as part of the "Xbox userbase" renders the term "Xbox userbase" practially meaningless.  "Look! The Xbox userbase is a billion people! I mean, most of them don't play games beyond solitare or candy crush, and the vast (like, really vast) majority of those who do actually play games do so through means that have nothing to do with us...But look! A billion people could possibly buy our stuff if they wanted to!"

2. Lets pretend there are two swimming pools that are being filled up. One, currently has 10,000 gallons of water in it. The other, 12,000 gallons. The first pool is being filled at a rate of 1,000 gallons a minute, the other at a rate of 500 gallons a minute. The first pool, despite not having as much water in it, is outpacing the second.

To your point about the Xbox One somehow coming back to outpace the 360 again. I think you vastly overestimate he effect that either the Xbox One S or the Scorpio are going to have on overall sales. It needs to sell an EXTRA 255K units a month over the last 6 months of this year just to keep pace with the 360 compared to what it did last year. That's 24.4% better than it did last year, when the first half of this year it's down 8.9%.

Last year, if you remember, the Xbox One had Halo 5, Forza 6, ROTR, Gears Anniversary, and no major PS4 games to go up against. This year, it's going to have to compete with the slim PS4, PSVR, and possibly even the 4.5.

3. Sure, there will be people who want the most powerful console and don't feel like buying a PC. Though I will remind you that the question was, why would someone not already interested in an Xbox One buy the Scorpio. So you're point about having certain games doesn't really fit that.

Also, VR support is a good point. Though the Vive is pretty widely considered the best VR option right now, and I don't know if the Scorpio will have full PC Rift support considering that it will still likely be a good deal underpowered compared to an Oculus ready PC.