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konnichiwa on 19 August 2016
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thismeintiel said:
konnichiwa said:

In 2013 if someone said we will have powerfull versions released in 3-4 years people would call you an idiot and if they would release a new powerfull console it will be a new generation it is that simple, today I not read anyone saying that neo or scorpio are new generations...Why?

The hardware sales will not be important anymore for devs but the ecosystem will. Sure Sony can state that in 2018 that they sold 80 million PS4's and 20 million Neo's but does that mean 100 million gamers? no because it could be that 15 million PS4 owners just upgraded to a Neo so technically it has 85 million gamers hardware sales will not represent the actual gamers but the ecosystem will.

And in 2020 we will see the announcement or release of a Neo 2 and Scorpio 2 and instead of developpers worrying about how much those consoles will sell they already will have a ecosystem where the game works on and will benefit gamers and devs. Because even if Neo 2 bombs and only sell 3 million first year their is this huge potential ecosystem on neo or even ps4 that buys a game.

How is the Neo any different from the Slim revisions, in terms of total system users?  There are many rebuys when it comes to Slims, as well.  Also, the next console after the Neo won't be called the Neo 2, it'll be the PS5.  Sony is not going with this false generationless BS.  I'm sure the PS5 will be B/C with the PS4, as B/C will be much easier when they are using off the shelf parts, but there will be exclusives to the PS5, which will mark the new generation.  And if MS stays in the console biz, you can bet they'll come out with a XB2 to compete with the PS5.

I am not 100% sure but their was no game that worked on ps2 slim that didn't work on the fat version. I expect it to be different with Neo and scorpio, yes sony and ms may promise that it is not going to happen but if a big third party game can only release on Neo and Scorpio you think they will say 'don't release it on our platform'? So if those game come like a possible exclusive from a third party on neo is it a new generation or not? Why not? When Neo 2/Scorpio 2 releases it is not going to be important how much that console sells but how big the ecosystem is, if you can release a game especially indies that work also on a PS4/neo you have a big ecosystem to release that game on instead of making different versions like FIFA 17 will be different version on PS3 and PS4.

No PS5 = bullshit that is the same when people talked about the first Neo rumours, it is bullshit and PS4 is selling like hotcakes their is no sense in doing it...now we all just accepted thatit became true.  What is exactly the benefit of releasing a PS5 instead of Neo 2? 

I see this all more like buying a new pc that gives me the ability to play games that I couldn't before and play some older games in higher resolution and better FPS but I certainly don't call it a new generation. The idea that with a new console generation games I can not play any % of those games on my older system is 'hopefully' dissapearing, I see it as a positive thing for developpers, I see it as a positive thing for gamers and because sony and MS make the most money in their ecosystem they will see benefits.