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Einsam_Delphin said:
Nuvendil said:

Look at your image in the OP:  16, 8, 8, 4, 8.  Sinnoh is the only time he placed above 8 and is bookended by two 8s.  That's why I call it anomalous, cause it represents an unusual step forward that didn't go anywhere since he went right back in the next season.  

Also just occurred to me Ash will probably win Alola just like he did the Orange league, seeing as how Alola is similarly unusual.  And then they will either have that be a spring board for winning a "big league" OR do what they did with the Orange League and make dead certain to belittle the accomplishment and have him probably finish 2nd again.

 

Ah, well then you can't say XY is a step forward for the first time until we see how Ash performs in the SM series. They could very well pull another BW.

After today I definitely would not expect Ash to win anything no matter how much sense it makes for him to. The writers have clearly shown that they give a rattata's ass about logic.

The reason I call this significant is the size of the jump, from 8 to almost winning the whole thing.  Also, Ash has significantly changed as a character on a foundational level.  Hopefully they keep the team behind 90% of this season and permanently, no-crossed-fingers-backsies fire the BW writers.  And perhaps petition to have them exiled from the country.  

And like I said, the Orange League is a precedent for him winning these unusual leagues.  That's why I could see that happening.  It's just a question of how significant they'll make it out to be.