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Kerotan said:

It's not metal gear solid canon.  That's what he said and it's enough for me. It's part of the universe yes. 

Regardless my whole point is based on it being a spin off which it is. 

Your original point was that Metal Gear Rising belonged to the Ac!d and Survive team because it was non-canon:

Kerotan said:
This goes under the same category as metal gear acid and metal gear rising.

It's non cannon.

 

When I replied back, you didn't attemp to point out it's spin-off nature, but argue about it being non-canon:

Kerotan said:

It's not Kojima canon though and that's what matters.  Platinum and Konami can say what they want but it means diddly squat to the Kojima metal gear fans. 

For the record I really enjoyed rising. 

 

It was only on your third comment when you finally changed the perspective and added the spin-off factor, on which you also pointed out the game not being "proper canon", despite the game being confirmed Metal Gear canon, Kojima himself loving it and the game being added to the Metal Gear timeline (which is something Portable Ops never had). You want to consider it spin-off and lump it together with the other spin-offs? Fine by me. But the criteria of such being non-canonical is wrong.