Who will provide the NX GPU?

[Miyamotoo]

JEMC said:

Miyamotoo said:

• Nvidia team was told to get a console win or "go home." Enter Nintendo, who apparently made off very well in this deal. This to the point that SemiAccurate questions whether this is a "win" at all for Nvidia.
• SA has heard that Nvidia are promising software, support, and the whole shebang at a very low cost. According to one source, Nvidia may even be taking a loss on this deal.
• Not mentioned which generation of Tegra or process node will be used or when the handheld is scheduled for release.
• No mention of the home console, but we can speculate what that might be and who might provide the chipset for that one.

http://semiaccurate.com/2016/05/12/guess-whos-silicon-is-in-nintendos-nx/

I don't want to sound rude, but don't treat SemiAccurate for a source of reliable information because it's not. It's just another source of info and rumors that, like the rest, sometimes is right and sometimes doesn't. 

And they are quite biased against Nvidia, which explains why in the article Nvidia seems desperate and willing to do anything, to put them in a bad position.

I didnt say that SemiAccurate is reliable source, but something like this definitely could be part of reason why Nintendo choose Nvidia instead AMD, it very posible that Nintendo made good deal with Nvidia, second reason would be that Nvidia chips are much more suitable for hand held that could be used with hybrid concept than similar solutions from AMD.

 

 

Mar1217 said:

Miyamotoo said:

You dont make any sense. WSJ and IGN from their sources confirmed infos about NX that Eurogamer wrote in their article.

Of Course nothing is official until Nintendo relieve NX, if you have artilce about NX from realible site, and then then those infos are confiremed buy multiply realibles sites or leakers, then most likly that actualy is true. In this case, Eurogamer made article and infos from that article were confirmed buy WSJ, IGN, MWC, wile SemiAccurate and Digitimes talked about NX using Nvidia even before Eurogamer article.

 

Most likely they can't say anything because of NX NDA. Also Nvidia next week will announce new Tegra Pascal based chip that has chance to be in NX.

- Ooooh, these ''sources''. Might as well say that my grandpa actually works at Nintendo and knows everything about the NX then. Can't believe we are in a era where some people trust whowever is gonna come out and say they got info from a ''reliable source'', which probably doesn't even exist in most case.

- Or it probably means they organized themselves well 

- Even if it was the case, I think they could probably have announced a design win without mentionning Nintendo. Hiding something from your investors is not really a good move you know,

Eurogamer is considered for very reliable source, same could say for Wall Street Journal, they are not random sites with some random rumours. On top of all that, IGN and MWC also confirmed Eurogamer infos from their own sources, and SemiAccurate and Digitimes also said that NX is using Nvidia.

We can't really know under what exactly NDA Nvidia is from Nintendo, especially if Nintendo is only who using that Nvidia design.

 

Mar1217 said:

Dunban67 said:

Nvidia did not " point out" they prob won t stay in the console market -  they did not discuss the console market one way or another -  

'Cause they are probably not interested in anymore

And yet infos we have pointing NX will have Nvidia chip..

 

 

Kirin_gaming said:

Miyamotoo said:

I think point is that they want to enter console market even that doesn't give them big profit, just to be present there and maybe later some else also would consider their chips for their consoles/platforms.

 

But again what would the point of that be? I think We've already established that console deals barely make any difference in a company's revenue especially one like Nvidia.The big 3 already know that Nvidia exists, they already know that they have the strongest and most efficient GPUs but they come at a premium price.Nvidia recently came into many investors eyes, they are currently a rising star, they need more deals like those with tesla which can possibly bring them billions they need to keep high profits to maintain a positive image, and like I've said countless times a console deal would do very little for a company like Nvidia, not to mention that having a losing deal like those guesses say would ruin their current image with investors.why would Nvidia ruin their image just for a petty console deal which will only cause them loses? do you now see why I and many other people are skeptical?

Bigger profit is always good, and it's not exactly good market image for Nvidia that none of current gaming consoles dont have an Nvidia chip and that they are all consoles are AMD based. For instance X1 chip or X2 Pascal based chip in NX, could be good comercial for Tegra for gaming waters, because potential sales of NX cannot be compared with only few sold millions of Nvidia Shield and tablet shield products. Console market is still big, and offcourse that is better for Nvidia to be part of that market also and not to be totaly off.

Hardly Nvidia have losing deal with Nintendo, but is very possible that they gave Nintendo good offer that will bring to them not big profit, but that doesn't mean losing deal.

 

Also there is rumour that Nvidia actualy canceld new Nvidia Sheield Tablet beacuse of NX.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/nvidia-drops-shield-tablet-successor-as-nintendo-nx-looms/

 

 

BlkPaladin said:
I put AMD because I believe they will use an AMD supplied ARM processor though I was reading about their ARM processors, and it doesn't eliminate that NVidia may be used to supply the graphics solution. It seems there was a supercomputer that was produced that used AMD's ARM tech and NVidia's graphic

Well heavily rumoured Nvidia X1 chip for NX actually have ARM CPU?

TEGRA X1 PROCESSOR SPECIFICATIONS

	TEGRA X1
GPU	NVIDIA Maxwell 256-core GPU DX-12, OpenGL 4.5, NVIDIA CUDA®, OpenGL ES 3.1, AEP, and Vulkan
CPU	4 CPU-cores, 64-bit ARM® CPU 4x A57 2MB L2

- See more at: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-x1-processor.html#sthash.oeoVJUTy.dpuf