XBox 360 Exclusives of 2008

[Strategyking92]

shio said:

Strategyking92 said:
because it means only one genre is highly successful, and people spend alot of money on one publisher rather than spreading the love with multiple games.

Publishers don't get squat from subscriptions, only the developers. And it's not the only genre that's successful, far from it. It's just the MMORPG genre is HUMoNGoUSLY successful.

Strategyking92 said:

and you misunderstood the second part, all I was saying is that games on the PC don't sell nearly as well as consoles, and there aren't that many PC versions of titles that sell good. (CoD4 only sold .5 million I think) ALSO: do you know a site that does PC games sales? Last I remember I saw that CoD4 only sold about .3 million (on PC)

I don't think you've realized the magnitude COD4 is doing on PC. COD4 sold 383k in the last 2 months of 2007 in North-America (retail only), it was still 6th placed last week on NPD's weekly PC charts. It is currently still 2nd placed on Steam, and has been released on several Digital Distribution services. It is still on every fucking PC top10 chart in Europe. COD4 is doing a Sims/WoW performance, what more could they need? Ah, and unlike Sims/WoW, COD4 is selling on alot of DD services.

And taking to Doug Lombardi, Valve's marketing director, in a recent interview on Shacknews:

"NPD, god love 'em, they release a US retail sales report, and people take that and say that's the world picture. And it's just not true. It's not like NPD is trying to be evil. Their job is to report North American sales data. They're doing their jobs. But people are taking that and discounting.. in Germany for example, retail sales of PC products crush all other games, with the possible exception of the DS. It certainly kills all of the next-generation consoles. So if people were looking at that and factoring it in, if people were looking at WoW's subscriptions alone and factoring it in, looking at Steam sales and factoring it in.. Just look at what Popcap's doing--Bejeweled and Peggle and all this stuff--they're not in that NPD data.

If you go around and you look at all these different things that are happening on the PC, and you add them together, my hunch is that [the sales numbers] would actually be much larger than all of the consoles put together. Again, minus the DS, because the DS is this crazy thing by itself. But talking purely in terms of the Wii, the PS3, and the 360, if you added those together and looked at the whole picture, I'd bet you PC would be even, if not bigger than those three systems in terms of the money that's changing hands and the opportunity for doing business."

of course valve of all people is going to say that........

 

Strategyking92 said:

I do agree that there are more PC exclusives... and I mean, who doesn't like pirates of the carribean online? and diner dash 3? you can't really compare cheaply developed games to the multi-million dollar developed games like the console exclusives. And the conversation then comes to "well, all 360 games are on PC, that means they aren't exclusive" when you make the arguement of assassins creed being on PC meaning that the PC does get high-dollar exclusives. well, guess what? Assassins creed in multiplatform.

You could have visited the PC exclusives thread to see how many awesome games are coming this year: http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=11503

But I'm so keen on comparing, let's do a 2008 exclusives PC vs 360 then?  I will only mention PC games that are/will be +80% (AAA exclusives are on green):

STRATEGY
Starcraft 2
Empire: Total War
Sins of the Solar Empire (88% on Gamerankings)
Disciples III: Renaissance
Panzers: Cold War
Jagged Alliance 3
Galactic Civilizations II: Twilight of the Arnor (95.7% on Gamerankings)
Battleforge
Worldshift

RPG
Dragon Age
Space Siege
King’s Bounty: the Legend

ADVENTURE
A Vampyre Story
The Immortals of Terra: A Perry Rhodan Adventure
Still Life 2
Love

MMORPG
World of Warcraft: Wrath of Lich King
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning

FPS
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky
Battlefield Heroes
Zeno Clash
Cryostasis: The Sleep of Reason
Fallen Empire: Legions

SIMS
SPORE
Storm of War: Battle of Britain
Microsoft Train Simulator 2

RACING
Trackmania United Nation Forever (83.2% on Gamerankings)

PUZZLE
Audiosurf (85.3% on Gamerankings)
Trials 2: Second Edition (83.3% on Gamerankings)

ACTION
American McGee’s Grimm

Ofcourse this is merely an estimation, we won't know how good most of them will be(or the ones I didn't mention). 

Strategyking92 said:

Truth be told, if the 360 controller was a mouse and keyboard, publishers would move pc games to consoles because that's where the money is. They only release games on PC to squeeze the last bit of money they can get out of a game, it isn't their primary way to make the money back on dev. costs.

I'm sure Microsoft would be thrilled to lose millions of sales of their OS's because they tried to move the 263 millions online PC gamers away from the PC.

Strategyking92 said:

I also think it's funny how you mention 2 successful MMO's and The Sims. The Sims is one of those rare games that NEVER stops selling. It's a freak of nature. So I guess you could say that you helped my arguement by mentioning those games, because, again, they hamper sales of other PC games. But, sure, you could say that any game that sells good is competition; that's not the case with the sims. WoW and The Sims are the only blockbusters on the PC and they are the only games that are selling good. Last I saw, 14000 PC games (that 10$ collection of flash games you can get at wal-mart) was in the top ten selling PC games.........

Some games sells better than others. Nothing new here. You should remember that PC games' sales aren't as fronted as console games sales: they will instead keep selling for years.

Strategyking92 said:

Now on to digital distribution.

I'm just not convinced it is as big as you think. 15 million steam users..... vs 12-15 million or so ps3 owners and 18 million or so 360 owners...... Boy, you think Valve would be printing nintendo quality money since they don't have to worry about console sales, since their console is used by 1/3 of the world.

That's 15 millions 10 months ago. Who knows how many people are there now. And Steam is not the only Digital Distribution service, there are dozens today, and more will keep coming in the future. 

 

about that first part: I said HIGHLY successful.

 

 

oh wow, i don't even need to respond to most of it, you just supported me for half of my points.

Bolded: you supported my claims

Italics: WTF?

Underlined: added

 

but seriously, I love the PC, and I hope it will rebound. But right now, I can't believe it is going well.................

 

and for the love of god please don't respond, I hate reading and re-reading so much! It isn't unhealthy!