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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
JWeinCom said:

Alright glad you're actually thinking and considering what he said instead of blindly defending a candidate.  All I ask really.  

As for why I'm calling him Drumpf, there is context for that, and it's not to mock his heritage.  First off, I actually have a plugin that changes Drumpf to Drumpf in chrome, so I honestly get confused as to which one is being used sometimes.  But, the reason the plugin came about, is that Drumpf specifically commented on Jonathan Steward not using his original last name which was kind of hypocritical seeing as he's not either.  He also routinely calls Elizabeth Warren Pochahontas.  It's about his hypocrisy, not about making fun of his heritage.  I honestly don't know what his heritage is.  I want to say Scottish.

As for the Mexican quote, he was specifically talking about one race, not all illegal immigrants.  I wouldn't say I took that out of context, but I didn't word it quite right, so I'll fix that.  He's saying that most of 28% of mexicans in this country are rapists murderers and drug dealers.  And to label any group that large like that is pretty bad, especially when the statistics don't bear him out.

Anyway it seems that besides that particular point, you're agreeing what I said was in context and generally accurate.  Whether that convinces you not to vote for him or not is up to you, but keep in mind not everything negative said about him is a matter of bias or misrepresentation.  

I wouldn't say Stewart/Warren and Drumpf are a good comparison. Donald had nothing to do with his ancestors changing his family name, while Stewart (assuming we're thinking about the same person, because apparently there's lots of them) was directly responsible. As for Elisabeth Warren, she is accused of feigning or greatly exaggerating her heritage. Even if it was a valid comparison though I simply can't see the Drumpf nickname turning voters away. If anything it comes off as childish name-calling.

Fair enough, thanks for fixing it.

And yeah, I never blindly supported Drumpf. Too many issues where we don't agree at all (a big one would be the second amendment). One key issue that we do agree on is opposition towards political correctness, but using fake statistics like in the retweet that you enlightened me about is hardly doing anyone a favor. In any event, you won't need to worry about my vote since I don't live in the US - and fortunately for me, we have better people than Donald Drumpf representing the anti-PC movement here.

It's not a direct comparison, but it's about Trump's tendency to simply try and bully people who disagree with him.  Really, why or how Stewart changed her name, or Warren's heritage is really none of Trump's business.  He uses these attacks when one of them has said something about him that he can not actually refute with facts.  It's also a bit of mockery over how prominently Trump displays his name.  I don't expect it to turn away voters, and I would hope that their decisions are based on something more substantial.  It's mainly for my own amusement.

I just can't see political correctness as a key issue.  I understand the point people are trying to make, and there are circumstances where political correctness gets in the way of accuracy.  For example, in education you'll hear things like underpriveleged, minority, and so and so, but the truth is that the achievement gap is far more pronounced among black students than with other minority groups.  And the fear of pointing out that black kids aren't doing as well prevents us from helping them to the best of our abilities.

But with all that said, with all the problems that are facing us, political correctness is just so far down the list that I don't even really consider it.  And in some cases being "politically correct" is simply common sense and good manners.  Unless two candidates were otherwise nearly identical, I can't see their views on political correctness really being an issue for me.