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Soundwave said:
JustBeingReal said:

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Look at the NPD chart every month, where are the family games every month? *crickets*. How many family games are even available on the XB1 or PS4?

Why did you single out the American charts? They do not represent the world.

FYI Lego Star Wars and Mindcraft are on that chart, but globally VG Chartz is about as close as we get to accurate worldwide charts and looking at the most recent update there were fewer shooters than other kinds of games, since limted family games aren't selling, maybe that should tell you something, even though Nintendo may have those (as you insist, I don't see many), they clearly aren't moving Nintendo consoles in the way they used to.

People already have a Playstation 4 for the games you want, so buy a Playstation 4. Like what's the problem?

Seriously, that's your argument? For one thing you don't know me or exactly what my tastes are when it comes to gaming. Nintendo has a better chance against dedicated gaming devices, than phones or tablets that people use for their media needs and happen to use them to game on the side.

It's an easier sell for Nintendo to target the dedicated gaming market, than the casual one and the potential for sales is still huge.

Basically is that Nintendo for some odd reason shouldn't be trying to sell their platform to me, they should tbh be trying to sell their system, with their games to anyone that potentially wants a dedicated gaming device.

I can't take my PS4 with me on the go, so for me if I want something to play decent games on the go, natively then I have nothing and that's a market that Nintendo could certainly tap into.

Nintendo is never going to fill that role, they are not that type of company and never will be. They make their style of games and their style of games are not what's selling home consoles anymore. It sucks but it is what it is, Nintendo is better off focusing on a market that is far more friendly to their style of gaming.

They used to be the type of company that made their games based on market need, not based on their own misguided assumptions based around a customer that grew up. Sure they have a small, but seemingly loyal faithful, but even those gamers are diminishing as is evidenced by the undeniable fact of Nintendo's reducing hardware sales.

Nintendo are better off expanding their portfolio, they're better off expanding into new areas to cater to more people, otherwise they will die, unless they end up becoming a 3rd party publisher and use their studios to put their games on other platform, but still they'd be wise to make a more diverse line-up of titles.

"Cater to the 3rd party market" basically means make violent Western action games. And that's never, ever, ever going to be Nintendo's M.O., nor does it need to be since 103939048309438 other companies already serve that role. 

No it doesn't, this is your assumption, what it really means is make a wide range of games that appeal to the west and that can include games like The Witcher, Uncharted, etc.

BTW Mario can be seen as violent (he kills goombas by flattening them, amongst other attacks), MK has street rage in it, pokemon is about inprisoning wild magical creatures against their will. Basically the majority of Nintendo games have some kind of violent feature to their gameplay.

There's already *four* (4!!!!) consoles that are trying to cater to this same market in a year's time. No one is asking for five but a very small niche group of people, Nintendo would have no chance. The direction of the NX even if it pisses off people who want basically the same thing x5 is IMO smart. They have no chance against 4 other consoles relying predominantly on family friend franchises. Maybe if it was 1995, but that it ain't. 

No there are 2, just because there are altered versions of them doesn't mean they count as new platforms, XBox Scorpio will play XB1 games, Neo will play PS4 games and the level of sales potential for software from the 3rd party market is what drives dedicated gaming hardware sales up, Nintendo are missing out on this.

NX could be the device that allows you to play those games natively on the go and Nintendo needs the sales of 3rd party software, they're missing out on huge profit potential.

Focus your resources on the more Nintendo friendly portable market, if you can sell 50-60 million NXes and reap monster profits on mobile games ... that's more than fine for Nintendo. 

It's never going to happen, it's clear that in both console and handheld markets Nintendo has diminished severely, their market is the dedicated gaming one, trying to compete with devices that people already have in their lives and happen to play free games or cheap games on isn't really going to be a sell for these people.

If 50 to 60 install base is all you're gunning for then you're going to fall short, if your system lacks what the people who are likely to buy a dedicated gaming platform want, then you're not going to sell to anyone, besides the few that may happen to still like Nintendo systems and happen to want this one because it's the newest version.

The mobile market isn't really up for grabs, not unless Nintendo actually develops phone tech or maybe gives the handheld/tablet away for free alongside existing phones, to then get people to maybe buy games, but when Nintendo will likely want decent amounts of cash per game that's likely not going to go down well with the market.

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