potato_hamster said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:
Damn, man. I was trying to just end this awful conversation peacefully.
I didn't buy my PS4. It was a wedding gift. I started subscribing to PS+ before Sony erected the online paywall. It's a great service so I kept re-subscribing. I spent $3 for Uncharted 4 at Redbox. I received review copies from publishers for the rest of the games. Yes, I pre-ordered the collector's edition for The Last Guardian. I've waited seven years for it and I trust Ueda implicitly. I also bought DLC for Fable II. And once I stole a candy bar when I was a kid. You caught me.
I'm not asking anyone to stop playing their favorite games or stop supporting their favorite developers. I'm asking consumers to be smarter about how and when they invest their money in an industry doing everything it can to separate consumers from that money.
I certainly don't want you out of a job, if that's where all this anger is coming from. I don't know. I just know you've continued to attack me and label me a liar, and haven't engaged with my actual points.
You're doing a great disservice to this awesome forum and this wonderful community. Folks come here for the free exchange of ideas and perspectives. They don't come her to suffer personal attacks. I've dedicated years of my life to this site, as a member, a moderator, and a writer. What exactly have you contributed? A bunch on insults directed at human beings you judge based on a gamer card?
Anyway, I really do hope you find peace. You seem proud of your occupation. Maybe you could try to understand the pride I have in mine?
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Its completely irrelevant where you get your consoles or your games, or why. You still use them, and continue to consume games on those platforms and use all of the services you claim are ruining the game industry. You're still playing and reviewing games you feel developers should not be making. Again, it's like wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat, donating and voting for Trump while writing articles blasting his policies, and begging people not to vote for him. It doesn't matter if you got the hat for free, you're still wearing it, and wearing it proudly, and people see you wearing that hat while begging people not to vote for him. That sends a mixed message, does it not?
I've not once called you anything other than a hypocrite, which you obviously are by your own admission. I don't think you're lying (and have never said as much) but you're being disinegnous by saying that it's awful that Sony is offering a service like PS+ while you're subscribed to it. It can't possibly be that bad to you if you're spending money on it. So these consumers that you're pleading to be smarter with their money and not subscribe to such services, how many of them do you want to do as you say and not as you do? How many of them are supposed to be smarter with their money than you appear to be? If Sony listens to these people you're pleading with to not buy into services like PS+ and Sony cancels the service, you'll actually be missing out on something you're willing to pay for. You will lose out one something you consume and enjoy. Why is this so hard for you to understand that this makes you look bad?
As for me apparently detracting from the site, are we or are we not freely exhanging ideas and perspectives? Of course we are. You just don't like the conversation, because the ideas and perspectives is about your hypocrisy. Besides, just because you've been here longer or "contributed more" doesn't mean you should be immune from criticism. You don't get special rules (or at least shouldn't).
Perhaps you'll consider that my stance on you and your presence on this site is similar to the stance you're taking with the game industry. I'm not mad. I didn't take any of the criticism you had against the game industry personally. You have just one opinion amongst hundreds of millions. What makes you think you're opinion on the industry has enough power to hurt me or any other developer personally, especially when your criticism is so broad and vague? It doesn't. The only reason I said what I said, is because I dig the site but like to call out bullshit when I see it here. You dig the game industry but like to call out bullshit when you see it there. Yet somehow you believe your pursuits are noble, but mine are a scourge to the site? Well as the Dude says, "that's just like your opinion, man". Afterall, I'm not the one profiting off of calling you out in any way. You on the otherhand....
Really, do yourself a favor and become more aware of your actions and how they represent you as a person. it appears that how you feel you present yourself and how you actually appear to those around you may not coincide.
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