Console Market not contracting, becoming more focused

[Cloudman]

Intrinsic said:

Cloudman said:

 I don't really see how Ninten is any more exclusive than any other company. They make games, consoles, and... that's about it. I don't see the damage they're doing.

I didn't say DLC was a necessarily a bad thing. DLC in itself is a great concept. It adds more to your game and keeps you playing longer, though we've seen how DLC can be corrupted many times in the industry, and it should not be a key point to get more money out of people. And I know Ninten has gone on it too, as I've bought some of their dlc, which some have been bad, and some... pretty good, sometimes even free. You don't even have to put a price tag on it. Just... give it for free sometimes.

Though all of that really is besides the point. You say that gaming is becoming more focused, but it sounds like it's the exact opposide. It's more open than it's ever been, and you're saying certain practices should be a way to make it more focused? It sounds like closing off a big market to a small group in the most terrible way, and why you would want to do that, well, I'm not so sure...

And Nintendo is expanding as well. We're seeing them put some games on mobile, which now seems like not such a bad idea...

 

Maybe you have completely missed the point.

Lets start with the thread title. I said consoles are becomig more focused. 

In my supporting posts I have gone on to say gaming is more open than ever before.

Both things aren't mutually exclusive.

Because of how open gaming has become in general, console gaming has in turn become more focused.

Some look at this focus as a contraction, when in truth its just that it's become more fine tuned to its exact specific demographic and audience. But said audience are not just buying games but are also paying for services and buying dlc and what not. 

you and others look at sony's and MS laser focus on a specific type of gamer as a bad thing, whereas its just them investing more in their best kind of customer. 

look at the wii, some of you say that nintendo did good by making some people that would never have been into gaming get into it. Yes they did, but now smartphones, tablets and facebook do that better than Nintendo. Getting people that would have otherwise not been into gaming into it. Those people don't need a console to play their kinda games. Those people aren't interested in the witcher 3 or even COD. They have all the game they need and want on their phone...etc. 

That's not a bad thing. that just means that that is not the kinda person consoles are made for. It never had been, but then  (since up to 2006-2010)those people didn't really have a choice. now they do. 

I think its a ridiculously flawed perspective to look at the industry and just think that morr is always better or that eveeyone playing games should somehow play on consoles. Im not saying this as a cop out that the PS4 will not do PS2 numbers. But that its better for the console business when they know that the 100M people that buy a console are also willing to buy at least 3-4 games a year, pay for dlc and or pay for a service or two. As opposed to more than half of that number just buying a box for just one or two games over a period of 5yrs.

More people than ever before are playing games, consoles are doing better than they have ever been before even though with a smaller userbase. And like I said before,

If the 6th gen had 250M console sales with $30B in software profits, and the 8th gen has 150M-200M console sales with $60B in software (and services) profits. Would you call that a contraction or an expansion? If as a result the overall industry is making more money where is the bad in that? 

And lastly, just to clear something up. The PS4 doesn't have to sell better than the PS2. but it will, why? Cause as far as Sony is concerned and the bottom line is concerned, the PS4 is really a PS4 +PS4neo+ PS5. All those consoles will play or be compatible with the same games. In truth, we should start coming around to the idea of a new way to define consoles. Maybe this generation of Sony consoles should be called the Orbis platform. And not just a PS4. 

No, I get the point. I just don't agree with it, and sorry to say, but feel it's a terrible way to go. The way you phrase it sounds like games was always an exclusive club, targeting on a certain audience, which back then that view was frowned upon by the general audience, and going back to that is just bad. Gaming should not just focus on certain audiences, but continue expanding out to every audience possible. It wouldn't be great for the market. And not focusing on them just because they also play on other devices sounds like companies are just giving up rather than focusing on other groups. Companies should continue trying to expand, and not try to make profit from other practices like dlc, mid upgrade consoles and paid online services. That's just dentrimental to the general consumer. And it's hard to say the console space is doing well when it it's really just Sony doing well.