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aLkaLiNE on 30 July 2016
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vivster said:
aLkaLiNE said:

I'd say there's a significantly larger percent of users that are affected by this, solely out of privacy concerns. Lest we forget the NSA datamining scandal that I think played a large part in crumpling the x1's launch (Microsoft was one of the corporations involved with that, along with trying to launch a console that was "always on" with a mandatory camera staring back at you).

 

The ironic part being that I was thinking about how I wish Linux had a simple distro with enough apps to justify a switch lol.

 

Edit: Actually, the first and fourth things mentioned seem significant as well. I wouldn't want pre installed apps plastered on my computer and it would irk me to have software that isn't removeable - which is something that greatly bothers me about most android smart phones. 

Going by that this patch is a non issue since people shouldn't even have any version of Windows installed.

If I don't use Windows on my PC, I'm still using android on my phone.

If I don't use android, I'm still using google as my search engine.

If I don't use a search engine, I'm still getting tracked by cross site cookies.

If I disable cookies, I'm still sending my IP to foreign servers and my ISP to track my movements.

If I stop using the internet and go outside, I'm still gonna be seen by public cameras.

If I somehow avoid public cameras, I'm still going to be filmed by passerbys or dashboard cameras.

If I stay inside with no internet and barred windows am I still living?

People should be less concerned about applications recording their movements and more about what information they're actually presenting.

 

After the whole NSA scandal my only feeling was pity for the poor NSA to have to waste bandwidth and storage for my garbage data.

It's clearly not an issue for you, I get that but you're taking what I said out of context and over exaggerating. For instance, just about everything you listed can be turned off or isn't much of an issue - cell phones can disable their GPS. Web Browsers not only have "Do Not Track" modes but also have incognito modes or alternatively you can straight up deny any and all cookies, wipe the browser after each use, there's really a ton of work arounds for that. As far as public cameras go, well, those are only placed in extremely busy and public locations. Contrast that against an operating system that's designed for home use, can interpret what you say, send data to the cloud and then have an app installed on your desktop that you never asked about. That is a huge fucking difference man and a potentially huge invasion of privacy - the kind of privacy that would be unreasonable to expect where public cameras are.

 

Its the principal of the sitatuation. If that's not a concern for you, alright, but hopefully you can at least see things from the perspective of someone that does not feel comfortable with these new precedents we're allowing these companies to get away with. And on that note to what end? This might have been an easier pill to swallow if some of us were at least given a choice in the matter which there still should be. W7 doesn't have these issues, w8 doesn't have these issues, so why not just sick with those right? Er.... Wait.... Microsoft just forced some of those people to update. They no longer have a say in the matter. <---And that's a big fucking deal.

 

Im not asking you to agree. Youve made it clear that you don't care much about your privacy. Hopefully, you can still see where others might come from on the topic.