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hershel_layton said:
Nuvendil said:

Well at this time literally everyone is focused on ISIL.  Even the rebels and gov forces have mostly stopped engagin each other to take on ISIL.  Not that they HELP each other :P .  It's quite awkward actually.  And amazing how many people ISIL has pissed off in its short lifespan.

As for the War in the next decade, it will be over by then.  Mosul is nearly surrounded, the Kurds and Iraqis are pressing forward hard.  They've lost major strategic positions like Fallujah, Palmyra, and the Homs region.  Raqqah is under threat. ISIL has actually been losing for months, these recent attacks are desparate flails to keep the fear alive as it is their only remaining weapon.

And on my last statement, yeah times do change.  But the fact Europeans always seem to get such an incorrect vission of the US never does :P.  In the early 20th century they apparently got all their info from US films and the valor of US forces in WWI and WWII and thus envisioned this idealistic Eagleland ("America the Beautiful", as it were).  Then in the late 20th century they apparently got their info from 80s action flicks, the Vietnam news footage, and other such sources and envisioned a bumbling, well meaning goof or watchful chessmaster or some such rubbish.  And now from what I hear most Europeans say, they apparently get all their info from social media, bloggers, conspiracy theorist sites, and the most sensationalist media cause everyone envisions this border-line warzone where every white man packs a magnum to protect themselves from the black men with TEC-9s and both are protecting themselves from hispanics and all the cops kick down your door with a M-4 and shoot first and ask questions later and Marial Law is inevitable blah blah.  Oh, and apparently we are both entitled and poverty stricken.  It's the most hilariously inaccurate depiction of any nation I have ever seen xD.  Which is why I find politics threads concerning US or that go to the US occasionally frustrating but mostly endlessly amusing as all the people not from the US (usually from the other side of the globe) get up and talk about this fictitious caricature :P

Oh and mark my words, those who rant about US border policies will NEVER concede we had a point even as they push for similar restrictions on some of their borders.  Trust me :P

Difference between us and Europe is that we won't die if we keep open borders. We don't even need a strong emphasis on it.

 

For the US, focusing on borders will result in lost time and money. For Europe, it will prevent overpopulation.

Well our northern border is very open, always has been.  The only border where we upped security considerably was the southern one where all kinds of crap was happening litterally within days drive of the border.  It was a similar issue on a smaller scale but over a longer period of time: desperate migrants unwilling to integrate legally or culturally in any capacity that had dangerous types intermingled within.  Only with us it was criminals, not islamic extremists.  The border with Mexico needed tightening cause lord knows the Mexican government has done crap all to help control population movement, seriously reduce crime, and improve economic health.  When you border a nation that poses issues at your border, you secure your border.  It's common sense.  When they don't pose an issue, you keep borders more open, as we have with Canada.  Also, us being larger means we can absorb more but it also means our nation is harder to police and protect, so that advantage cuts both ways.