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zero129 said:
thismeintiel said:

Seems like too many people are forgetting the history of 3DS, and the state of the HH market.  It also started out very poorly when it was priced at $249.  They had to drop it to $169, which lost them quite a bit of money, for it to actually start performing well.  Even after that, the 3DS will still be their poorest selling HH.  It will most likely sell 65M-75M, less than the PSP sold, which had the highly successful DS to compete with.  The HH market is dying/dead. 

So, do you honestly think a NX that is less powerful than a XBO, and most likely priced at $299 will see a better start than the $249 3DS?  Highly doubt it.  And I don't think Nintendo is going to be able to drop it to $169 if sales are stagnant.

Also, a console that launched 2 1/2 years earlier has sold more?  Shocker.  Hope you'll be less shocked when the PS4 easily passes it, and then some.

This is like saying just cos the PS4 isnt selling PS2 level hardware Its fucked...

 

Only if you look at the small picture.  However, step back and look at the large one.  Last gen was the PEAK of HH gaming.  We had the best selling HH ever, the DS, sell ~154M.  And we also had the best selling non-Nintendo HH ever, the PSP, sell ~82M+ (more than the GBA.)  That's over 236M.  And what do we have this gen?  The 3DS, which may not even sell half of what the 3DS sold, will be Nintendo's worst selling HH ever.  And the Vita may not even hit 20M.  There's no other way to look at it but that mobile gaming is killing the HH market.

Looking at home consoles is quite different.  We are moving back into the more usual model where there is a clear winner of the gen, with less cross over between platform customers, and with the other 2 trailing behind it.  The PS4 may not reach the PS2's total, but there is little question that it won't pass the PS3's and PS1's.  Not when it hasn't even dropped more than $50 from launch almost 3 years ago, or hit the magical $299 and $199 price points.  And while the XBO certainly won't pass the 360, it will be passing the OG XB.  All in all, I think we will see total consoles this gen be very similar in number to Gen 6, which saw the peak of the core gaming market.

This gen also proved that millions are willing to pay $399 for a console.  It also proved not many people are even willing to pay $249 for a HH.  For Nintendo's sake, they better price the NX for $199, or lower.  Anything higher and I don't think a lot are going to jump on.