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zero129 said:
thismeintiel said:

Let's not kid ourselves here.  Without the Wii fluke, Nintendo has been declining in the home console market.  You can try to reason this however makes you feel better, but it's a cold, hard fact.  The core market has progressively moved on from Nintendo once the PS entered the scene.  They were able to gain a lot of casuals with the Wii, but now that mobile gaming has stolen them away, that model isn't going to work anymore.  The Wii U's, which is basically Wii 2.0 (underpowered, but cheap HW, that uses a gimmicky controller) lack of sales illustrates this extremely well.

The NX is basically Nintendo's last ditch effort to be relevant HW-wise.  They are trying to combine their home and console markets with one console.  The problem is, if the new rumors are true, than they have done it in the WORST way possible.  Many were speculating that NX would be a home console that fell somewhere around the XBO, powerwise.  May have been a little less or a little more powerful.  It would also have a controller that doubled as a handheld.  While I don't think it would have been successful, at all, it at least would have allowed them to have 3rd party support for a couple of years, until the PS5 came out and devs moved away from the PS4/Neo. 

What we have now, again, if the rumors are true, is a gaming tablet with detachable controllers.  That means the power level will be even less than what was speculated before.  Maybe half an XBO.  3rd parties aren't going to want to take time to make AAA ports for an console that underpowered.  This is already being proven by the fact that the NX comes out in 7 months, yet we only have like 4 games announced for it.  And sure, it being weaker will mean it'll be cheaper, but its weaker HW and lack of 3rd party support for AAA, I don't see it having a very positive reception from core gamers.

3DS has sold more units then the PS4. Nintendo has been very sucessful in the handheld market unlike Sony.

This is Nintendos Nextgen handheld and a pretty powerful one at that. IT will have plenty of Japan support.

Also what Nintendo Handheld has had bad sales? i cant think of any. I mean Nintendo is launchin new hardware into a market they own. So i think they will be fine...

Seems like too many people are forgetting the history of 3DS, and the state of the HH market.  It also started out very poorly when it was priced at $249.  They had to drop it to $169, which lost them quite a bit of money, for it to actually start performing well.  Even after that, the 3DS will still be their poorest selling HH.  It will most likely sell 65M-75M, less than the PSP sold, which had the highly successful DS to compete with.  The HH market is dying/dead. 

So, do you honestly think a NX that is less powerful than a XBO, and most likely priced at $299 will see a better start than the $249 3DS?  Highly doubt it.  And I don't think Nintendo is going to be able to drop it to $169 if sales are stagnant.

Also, a console that launched 2 1/2 years earlier has sold more?  Shocker.  Hope you'll be less shocked when the PS4 easily passes it, and then some.