Amazon U.S. July bestsellers and general Amazon-based discussion

[Welfare]

GribbleGrunger said:

Welfare said:

The 2TB SKU was never late August, that was a placeholder date. MCVUK had the August 2nd date a week after the S was announced.

Game consoles are now sold with games along with them. Going from having games bundled to then having no games would make more people inclined to wait for holiday deals.

Also Scorpio won't be marketed as a "next gen" console, but as an upgraded Xbox One, so it'll have a high price compared to the XB1. Scorpio is the high end XB1, S is the budget XB1.

Where do you think the vanilla PS4 would be if it was $300? It would be above the COD bundle which generally holds a position in the top 20. Here we have a NEW XB1 slim console that goes for $300 (already $50 cheaper than the PS4 COD bundle) and they feel it necessary to add in 2 Halo games. It doesn't matter how you look at that it's an insane strategy that can only lead to future customers waiting for those inevitable deals. Add to that the obsessive focus MS has for Christmas and you can see how that's a recipe for disaster for everything but the last 3 to 4 months of the year. It's a train wreck of a strategy.

Of course the $299 PS4 would be above the $349 bundle, but, MS is already preparing for the holidays. This will be their main cheap holiday bundle and they can keep it going into 2017 just like they have been doing with the Gears bundle. We will most likely see MS trying to make more $349/$399 bundles with newer games, but the $299 bundle is meant to generate as much sales as possible, and bundling in a 2 year old game and a recent game that'll make money off of microtransactions is a safe move to do.

MS have already priced the XB1 below the PS4 by $50, and if PS4 has a game bundled in at $349, the XB1 will have a game bundled in at $299.