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ratuscafoarterea on 24 July 2016
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SuperNova said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

I didn't say anything about this being an attack linked to IS. My point was that he decided to commit this mass-murder because as a muslim he feel that he was rejected and bullied by the German society, even tho the Germans are some of the most open minded people in Europe. It’s still a mass-shooting that has links to religion and the identity to a certain group that doesn’t want to fully integrate. You say that he didn’t use all of his ammunition, how you don't know that he  realized he got surrounded by the police and he decided it’s time to end his life?  Also, the western media is trying to say that this attacker was mentally ill. Really? a 18 years old mentally ill loner, living in Germany (a country with some of the toughest gun laws), somehow managed to get his hands on a Glock and 300 9mm rounds. That sounds about right ….. only for blind horse

And my point is that his religion is probably at best tangentially related to this crime. His whole attack pattern speaks of someone motivated by frustration and desperation. Not someone on a religious mission.

Yes, he might have been discriminated against in life because of his religion (if he even followed the Islam faith, that is, we don't really know at this point), but according to all that we know this didn't drive him to religious extremism.

This attack seems unlikely to have been motivated by religion and rather by social issues. When a christian man kills someone in a mugging you don't file that under a religiously motivated attack either, do you?

Also, a mentally ill 17-year old loner, living in germany (a country with some of the toughest gun laws), somehow managed to get his hands on a whole host of guns and decided to shoot up a school, get into a chase with the police, shoot some bystanders while on the run and finally shoot himself himself in the head during a mexican standoff wth the police. It happened before. In Winneden. There's president for this.

And if you're asking: Where did he get the gun? Probably the same way the Winneden shooter did. Daddy didn't lock hin gun carbinet, as required by the law. It is not impossible in Germany to get a gun, far from it. It is true that aquiring a license requires thorough training and psych evaluation, but there's alot of sports shooting clubs and hunters unions, where even youths get trained with firearms, especially in Bavaria wich is a very conservative part of the country.

So yeah, a kid in treatment for depression could very well have gotten his hands on a gun if his family didn't follow the gun laws.

"His whole attack pattern speaks of someone motivated by frustration and desperation"  .....

You’ve just described why a lot of people turn to religion.

"When a christian man kills someone in a mugging you don't file that under a religiously motivated attack either, do you?"

apples to oranges,

Germany is a predominant Christian country, so your example is way off.