Video of Unarmed Black Man Lying on the Ground With His Hands Up and Shot By The Police

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Ganoncrotch said:

Goatseye said:

Editing? How can you give the police reasonable doubt if both individuals are unarmed? You are quick to doubt the victims' word but can't admit that the officer was incompetent in this case? The Miami PD didn't even refute the fact or the story of the man but you are.

It's like you want to justify the shooting...

Nope, throughout this thread I both refered to the cop as being really bad at his job, having the worst aim ever and questioned his statement about what in the world he was shooting at considering his excuse of the shot going astray.... was this cop actually trying to shoot the autistic man? in which case he is very lucky in some ways that he missed and got the carer instead although may have ended up in less trouble with some groups since the autistic man was white.

I doubt all the facts until they are proven rather than picking up the most sensational ones or taking the headline "facts" as being all that matters in a story like this, the headline fact is the clickbait that gets you to click the story, News sites still function the same way gaming or other places do and still if they have an oppertunity to get more hits by ommiting certain things will do that, there is so many news stories to pick from if there is violence somewhere in the states, quick scan over it... are all the people there white? is there any black people? is anyone in the area wearing a turban? no? damnit move on to the next, will get more people watching it. Think about it there are 12,000 gun murders a year in the states, that's 33 per day to pick from for the news to see which would get more coverage... and that is just murders, this was a non lethal shooting, would be almost impossible to find out how many people are injured in the states everyday but it's going to be at least 10x the number of murders.

But don't get me wrong in this case the Cop was in the wrong as long as there wasn't anything strange happened when the victim got up and went to the autistic man but yeah just because someone tells you that they have a toy truck does not mean they have a toy truck, if you were a nervous cop and someone reached into their coat pocket saying they were going to get out their gameboy to show you their shiny eevee... do you take what they're saying as true? or react and think they could have a weapon (to be fair if someone was lucky enough to have a shiny eevee maybe I'd consider the second option just fine!) but yeah again I'm not taking either side on this story anywhere during this thread, all I'm asking is before a witchhunt begins for the cop that everyone look at all of the evidence rather than what appears in the headlines.

 

Regardless of what went on there though, I do not think the cop was in the right to shoot that man there is no justifying that horrible mistake. (just based on your final line, don't want that hanging in the air at all!)

 

Ganoncrotch said:

Goatseye said:

Editing? How can you give the police reasonable doubt if both individuals are unarmed? You are quick to doubt the victims' word but can't admit that the officer was incompetent in this case? The Miami PD didn't even refute the fact or the story of the man but you are.

It's like you want to justify the shooting...

Nope, throughout this thread I both refered to the cop as being really bad at his job, having the worst aim ever and questioned his statement about what in the world he was shooting at considering his excuse of the shot going astray.... was this cop actually trying to shoot the autistic man? in which case he is very lucky in some ways that he missed and got the carer instead although may have ended up in less trouble with some groups since the autistic man was white.

I doubt all the facts until they are proven rather than picking up the most sensational ones or taking the headline "facts" as being all that matters in a story like this, the headline fact is the clickbait that gets you to click the story, News sites still function the same way gaming or other places do and still if they have an oppertunity to get more hits by ommiting certain things will do that, there is so many news stories to pick from if there is violence somewhere in the states, quick scan over it... are all the people there white? is there any black people? is anyone in the area wearing a turban? no? damnit move on to the next, will get more people watching it. Think about it there are 12,000 gun murders a year in the states, that's 33 per day to pick from for the news to see which would get more coverage... and that is just murders, this was a non lethal shooting, would be almost impossible to find out how many people are injured in the states everyday but it's going to be at least 10x the number of murders.

But don't get me wrong in this case the Cop was in the wrong as long as there wasn't anything strange happened when the victim got up and went to the autistic man but yeah just because someone tells you that they have a toy truck does not mean they have a toy truck, if you were a nervous cop and someone reached into their coat pocket saying they were going to get out their gameboy to show you their shiny eevee... do you take what they're saying as true? or react and think they could have a weapon (to be fair if someone was lucky enough to have a shiny eevee maybe I'd consider the second option just fine!) but yeah again I'm not taking either side on this story anywhere during this thread, all I'm asking is before a witchhunt begins for the cop that everyone look at all of the evidence rather than what appears in the headlines.

 

Regardless of what went on there though, I do not think the cop was in the right to shoot that man there is no justifying that horrible mistake. (just based on your final line, don't want that hanging in the air at all!)

Excellent reply.

 

that's all I really wanted to say. Nice to see someone who doesn't paint this as a black or white issue.