Scapegoating

[Peh]

RolStoppable said:

Aura7541 said:

If you want to show the post you are replying to, then provide at its entirety, namely "There's no one criteria for what constitutes or does not constitute an Islamic attack."

My interpretation of your argument in the other thread was that you were saying there has to be a specific pattern for an attack to be an Islamic attack. My argument is that there's no one criteria for what makes an Islamic attack and that the more important aspect is the motivation. How an attacker goes about his killing spree does not change what his motivation was. This is why you were off because you were focusing on the wrong aspect. When more information came out, the killer had a history of being bullied and not feeling German enough.

The reason why I didn't claim anything either way prior to that was because there were reports of him saying "I'm German" while there was an eyewitness testimony from a Muslim woman that he shouted "Allahu Akbar". And this is actually another counterargument to your pattern argument because based on the then limited information, the motivation could've been Islam, but there was a good possibility that it was not based on the "I'm German" statement. Therefore, the root cause or the motivation is the far more important aspect.

Your argument was bad. Or have you ever heard of an islamic attack where the killer fled the scene only to shoot himself right afterwards? That's why I said that it's probable that the killing spree wasn't an islamic attack, but rather is an amok run because the pattern fits such a crime.

How an attacker goes about his killing spree determines what his motivation can be. Crimes cannot only be analyzed from start to finish, but they can also be tracked back from the end to the start. Just because you don't grasp my thought process doesn't mean that it was illogical.

In my response to you in the other thread I said that one piece of the limited information is that there have been a lot of conflicting eye witness reports. Based on the information that the ninth dead person is probably a killer, I had no reason to believe that Muslim woman for one second. Likewise, the likelyhood that there was more than one shooter was also slim based on the presumable suicide, so I didn't put much stock into the eye witness reports that suggested three killers were at work and instead was leaning towards a single person being the culprit.

Rol, please avoid further debate in this thread regarding this issue.