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bigtakilla on 22 July 2016
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padib said:
RolStoppable said:

You said Nintendo's vision for NX is to have third party support that requires powerful hardware. You said that because you were arguing that powerful hardware is equally important to having a strong first party lineup. However, nothing Nintendo has said about NX so far suggests that NX is about winning over the big third party publishers. Just about everything points in the direction that Nintendo will prioritize what sells Nintendo hardware best (that is Nintendo software, hence the entire idea of a unified library), because without sales, any kind of third party support will be a pipedream.

I didn't deny that Nintendo would like to collect royalty fees. All I said is that it isn't their main goal. Different context.

As for your proof, I am not sure if you remember what you are supposed to prove. You are arguing that third parties help to increase the installed base, hence why Nintendo has to have powerful hardware to appease third parties; your argument is that powerful hardware is equally important as a strong first party lineup. But the proof you provide shows higher sales of Nintendo software that happened on Nintendo systems that did not feature powerful hardware. I mean, you are presenting proof against your own argument. Powerful hardware was not needed to achieve higher sales, and the lack of powerful hardware can easily be argued to have been beneficial, because it had a positive effect on the price of the hardware.

You're splitting things up too much. A better library helps push sales of the software contained because an increased install base sells games. Both a better library and better 3rd party support (which both happened for Wii & 3DS) helped pushed game sales of Smash. You can't say that it was one or the other. Sure the consoles Wii & 3DS were not graphically equal to the best out there, but 3rd parties were attracted to the platforms. I am not saying that parity is the only way to attract 3rd parties, but I am saying that in some circumstances it probably is. For example, the U had new ways of playing, like the Wii, yet it failed. Therefore, perhaps there comes a time when what attracts 3rd parties is not just new input methods.

As for their vision, I didn't mean that 3rd party support was their main vision for the NX, I meant that it was a long-term vision if they have any business sense whatsoever. Sure they can sell games on their own, but it would make better business sense to have both: be highly successful without having to rely on 3rd parties and having support from 3rd parties.

The only problem essentially with that is you really can't get people on board with third party if there are other systems they are already coming out on. Even if the NX were more powerful, they would need a reason to upgrade, which is why it is so imperative for a strong 1st party line up to launch. Then getting people to want third party games, as well as the first party games comes off a lot easier.