Games that have the balls of not giving you any startup tutorial

[Intrinsic]

Slarvax said:

mZuzek said:

Came in here to say that (I can't contain my hype with this game right now).

I'm not sure if it counts since the game has several pop-ups at the start teaching you the basics of the controls and gameplay. But it doesn't have a proper tutorial - in fact, it has a sort of natural tutorial right before the first battle that is honestly nothing short of brilliant.

That's still a turorial. 

OT: Let's get this out of the guy, all retro games came without tutorials.

No thats not a tutorial. I don't consider pop ups that you would typically see if you bothered to read a games manual as a tutorial. If u see a pop up that says press up to jump, that's not a tutorial. Cause if it were then we could consider every retro game that has such pop ups or info in their manuals as tutorials.

What I consider to be tutorials are when a level or obstacles are designed for the sole purpose of making you learn the controls and in extreme cases they even tell you what to do.

SoTC has u in a hall, you press buttons until ur dude makes a sound, horse appears. press buttons until the guy jumps on horse, press button until sword appears, then it tells u to focus the light to find ur for. that's it. 

doesn't tell u how to get there, how to beat it doesn't even tell you the amount of things you can do on your horse. you just figure shit out as you go.

most people play the entire game never knowing how to stand on the horse .