Mike_L said:
1: You're referring to a comment where I was talking about Eyetoy Play, not Eyetoy Play Sports. They're different games. Eyetoy Play launched almost 4 years before the Wii launched. 2: So because you believe my arguments are shitty, you don't bother checking them. That makes sense. Again, your arguments are black and white. You don't think boxing and table tennis in Wii Sports were similar to boxing and table tennis in Eyetoy Play. Unlike you, I've actually played both games and I think they felt very similar in their concepts but that's not even important. Even though you (a random Nintendo fan who hasn't even played an Eyetoy game) think that the games weren't similar, I still believe that the motion controlled Eyetoy series of games possibly inspired Nintendo to make the motion controlled Wii series of games. 3: Sports games ≠ motion controlled sports games. 4: Wow. You admitted (when you're using that word it almost seems like you take it as a personal loss if it was concluded that Nintendo's also inspired) that fishing in Wii Play looks "undoubtedly very similar" to fishing in Eyetoy Play. That's probably as far as I can get you to realize that every company is inspired. So I'll take that and walk away. I'm open to the possibility that some of Nintendo's Wii games are inspired by some of Sony's Eyetoy games. But with you nothing is probable. What you believe is the only reality. No point in arguing with you :/ |
1. No, I addressed both. I clearly addressed Eye Play in #2.
2. Yes. If you give me a series of shitty examples, I'm going to stop researching them. You've shown several times that you have no idea about the Wii development, so why should I bother? When you're making claims like Wii Sports ripped off a game that was revealed after it, then why should I take the rest of what you say seriously? t's not my job to do the research for your shitty arguments. Present it yourself. But, I have looked up the bowling. The aesthetics are different, you control them differently, (you push the ball into the air like a volleyball serve for some reason) and so on.
Now you're saying that it was "possibly inspired" by Eyetoy. Well that's a pretty weak statement isn't it? Can you give any evidence that it was possibly inspired by Eyetoy Play? Because if you don't have any supporting evidence, I really don't care what you think. But, whatever. You're free to think that if you want, although the timing makes that highly doubtful. There is a big difference between being "possibly inspired" and being a blatant rip off.
3. Come on now. Are you saying that after creating 5 or so baseball games, they couldn't come up with the idea for a motion controlled one for themselves? Since you're ignoring most of what I say, let me ask you again. Do you honestly think Nintendo wasn't going to come up with sports games for the Wii without Eyetoy play? If you were working for Nintendo at the time, do you think you could have connected those dots for yourself?
4. Yes. I admitted it twice. I also gave examples of times when Nintendo actually was inspired by other companies. I have explained several times that this was not my complaint about Sony. My complaint was that they straight up rip off concepts. If you feel like you won a moral victory by making me admit something I never disagreed with then good job. My complaint was never about inspiration. It was about ripoffs.
5. So, this is what's called an ad-hominen attack. Instead of defending your arguments (although I can't blame you for not defending them dumb as they are) you are simply going to claim that I'm stubborn or dumb or whatever. You'll notice that although I've ridiculed your arguments (which is fair, because they are ridiculous) I have not said ANYTHING about you personally. I expect the same courtesy. You're free, encouraged in fact, to point out the flaws in my arguments. Do not talk about my personality again. Do not try to cover up the deficiencies in your arguments by attacking me.
I am open to any possibility that makes sense. I am not open to the possibility that the inspiration for the Wii was a peripheral that was released when the Wii was two years into development and is not similar in function or design. I am not open to the possibility that Nintendo needed outside inspiration to make a Mario Party style game after they had already made 8 of them which all sold very well. I am not open to the possibility that Nintendo was not going to make any sports games for their new console until Sony made one. These arguments are dumb and ridiculous. Don't accuse me of being stubborn for not listening to crap arguments.
And, I've already said about ten times by now, that a company being inspired by another does not bother me at all. I don't know how many times I can clarify my point (the point that YOU felt you needed to argue about) that it's rip offs that bother me. I've said on several times that Nintendo takes notes from other companies (although not in any of the examples you provided). But, they don't produce blatant rip offs like Sony does.
