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thismeintiel on 08 July 2016
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TheBlackNaruto said:
thismeintiel said:

Yes, you proved my point.  Like many who jump to "cop bad, 'criminal' just made a mistake" mentality, you HAVE to present only one side of the story or half of it to gain support.  If people knew the whole truth, they would not be so quick to support your side. 

And I never said the kid was a thug, only he was pretending to be one.  Which means he may have looked up to them, so who knows what his future would have brought.  But either way, you brandish a gun, act like a thug, and don't put it down when a cop tells you to (yes, even if you're white), and you will get shot.  It also doesn't help that he was all by himself, not playing with any other kid.  If he had been, instead of threatening random people who walked by (which is NOT an acceptable form of play, by any standards), then he'd most likely be alive.

The problem with your side is you see everything in hindsight.  Which is 20/20 as they say.  You don't think those cops felt miserable when they found out it was a toy?  Of course they did.  It probably still haunts them.  But, there was NO way for them to know.  And the second he won't put it away and points it at them, you're damn right they fired.  You would have done the same damn thing, though I doubt you would admit it.

As for your last paragraph, let's be honest here.  The only reason we are even hearing about any of these instances is because the victims are black.  It allows people to push an agenda and even more vile people to make their living.  Without the race war, many would be out of a job.  For example, had that child been white and the cops black, which I'm sure has happened plenty of times, it would have been buried as a local story for us to never hear of again.  Of course, I would have had the same opinion, regardless of race.

Okay you have lost me...first your point was about perpeuating a lie now it is about cop bad criminal made a mistake? I know the whole turth about the situation we are discussing at hand right now. This CHILD was playing alone in a park by himself with a toy gun that looked real. He was walking up to people acting like he was going to shoot them and pretty much just being a child. Guess what kids do that...has nothing to do with pretending to be a thug or even looking up to them at all. Not saying it is good for a child to do that but they do. No one was hurt, no shots were fired the only thing the cops had was that the gun LOOKED real from a distance.

I don't know if the cops felt miserable or not. They sure didn't go out of their way to let it be known that they did. But as a human i would want to think that they did. Even though drawing guns on a lone child because he as what appears to be gun is still beyond me. There have been plenty of instances where cops have told someone to put a gun down and they did not comply without being killed. So no I am not in agreement that they should have fired and no I can't say that I would have fired becuase it doesn't make sense to just unload on a child from a distance at all.

And lastly...you can't be serious so you are really telling me that you feel it would no thave made the news if a white child playing with a toy gun was gunned down by black cops? And you are sure it has happened plenty of times? I literally have no words for that because I am at a loss as to how you could even say that with a straight face.

My first point remains.  The halftruth, which is also a lie.  You go around talking about a kid playing with a gun, without giving the whole picture.  I pretty much forced you to write the whole details.  But, in your normal, everyday life, when you talk about it, do you give the details?  Highly doubt it.  It remains a kid playing with a toy and getting shot.  One that looked real unless you were right next to it.  One that had the tip removed because the kid wanted it to look more real.  He got his wish.

And why would the cops have to come out and say they felt miserable?  Not like BLM would have believed them.  Probably would have made them even angrier.  It has more to do with the kid's actions as to why he was shot, not that he was holding a gun.  If he wasn't standing in the same area with the purpose of threatening to "shoot" people that were walking by.  If he had just dropped the weapon, instead of walking with it in both hands towards the cops.  And sorry, that is not playing.  He was being a bully, backing it up with a gun.  He was not frolicking around or hiding in bushes, just trying to scare people or play cowboys.  He was bullying them.  Waiting around the same spot for more people to come by, so he could pull his gun out on them.  And if that is play to him, or you, there is something wrong.

And yes, I can say that that is the case with a straight face.  Since THIS didn't become a HUGE national story that we are still feeling the affects of.  Reason it wasn't?  Doesn't fit the narrative or help push it.  Now, imagine if that was a 6 yr old black kid and two white cops.  Yea, you know damn well we'd still be reeling from that.