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thismeintiel on 08 July 2016
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Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

Yes, you proved my point.  Like many who jump to "cop bad, 'criminal' just made a mistake" mentality, you HAVE to present only one side of the story or half of it to gain support.  If people knew the whole truth, they would not be so quick to support your side. 

And I never said the kid was a thug, only he was pretending to be one.  Which means he may have looked up to them, so who knows what his future would have brought.  But either way, you brandish a gun, act like a thug, and don't put it down when a cop tells you to (yes, even if you're white), and you will get shot.  It also doesn't help that he was all by himself, not playing with any other kid.  If he had been, instead of threatening random people who walked by (which is NOT an acceptable form of play, by any standards), then he'd most likely be alive.

The problem with your side is you see everything in hindsight.  Which is 20/20 as they say.  You don't think those cops felt miserable when they found out it was a toy?  Of course they did.  It probably still haunts them.  But, there was NO way for them to know.  And the second he won't put it away and points it at them, you're damn right they fired.  You would have done the same damn thing, though I doubt you would admit it.

As for your last paragraph, let's be honest here.  The only reason we are even hearing about any of these instances is because the victims are black.  It allows people to push an agenda and even more vile people to make their living.  Without the race war, many would be out of a job.  For example, had that child been white and the cops black, which I'm sure has happened plenty of times, it would have been buried as a local story for us to never hear of again.  Of course, I would have had the same opinion, regardless of race.

How many white kids get shot by cops for having a toy gun? I don't recall it happening much at all. A kid with a toy gun shouldn't be shot period. How about that?

There is racial bias, of course there is, cops are human, and as such some of them are going to be shitty people. Just like the real world has shitty people. 

The problem with the police department is these cops in most cases get off scott free after murdering someone because the police are loathe to admit that they may have some officers who acted poorly. With social media they can't hide it anymore, there's a camera now everywhere. 

And you continue to prove my point.  Hindsight and halftruths are your side's only tool.  If the cops thought it was a toy gun, then they could have reacted as such.  But, at that moment, they thought it was real.  There was no indication it was a toy.  The orange tip that was put on it BY LAW so this crap doesn't happen, was purposely removed so it would look real.

So, I guess in your mind if someone held up a bank or was holding someone hostage with a fake or real gun, then the cops pulled up and demanded he drop it, yet he points it at them, they shouldn't fire?  They better make damn sure 100% by touching or getting really close to make sure it is real, otherwise we're going to tear them down?  Going to be a lot of dead cops and innocent civilians if that is your requirement.  Your bias speaks volumes.

There were at least 28 people shot and killed in 2015 for holding a BB guns.  I highly doubt they were all black.  I did find a story about a Hispanic boy who was shot and killed in 2013 for holding one.  Not sure why that didn't cause a national outcry.  Hmm.  Just because the media doesn't make a big deal or the nation doesn't has a week/month long discussion, because a white kid was shot for holding a fake gun, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  To act like it doesn't trivializes their lives.  Though, that may be the point.  Only BLM, after all.