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Raistline on 07 July 2016
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REDZONE said:
Raistline said:

That is true, unless he reached behind him with a show of anger or force which would lead the officer to believe that he was reaching for a weapon with intent. We do not know if this was what happened or not.

What are you even saying?All you are doing is assuming to justify his actions.The girlfriend is the eyewitness, she gave an account of what happened,so what do you mean we don't know if this and that happened.

I have done nothing in attempt to justify the officers actions. I have not said that this is what has happened nor have I assumed such. I am trying to point out that we do not have all the facts in this situation and should not jump to conclusions so quickly.

The video is from an obviously emotionally comprimised woman whose first thought was to find a way to document an event to prove that her boyfriend was not in the wrong. The video however did not show the inident as it took place so all she is doing is making an early eyewitness account.

Observations of the video that could impact the court case when it comes: 

  • The officer was very obviously shooken up over the event and scared shitless, whether he was scared because he just killed an innocent man or because he thought he was going to die, I cannot say. Later in the video you can here the officer exclaiming the F* word as he finds out that the man he shot is certainly dead. There was personal distress in this.
  • The womans account was very stoic but that is easily attributable to shock as she later comes out of the stoic trance like state as she is whailing about the loss of her boyfriend. 
  • The man was obviously shot by the police officer from the angle of the wounds that could be seen.
  • The womans story about the events changes slightly as she repeats her accounting of the issue. At one point she states that she said he had a permit, but that sounded more like a mistake during rambling. The amount of times he got shot changes several times. This is likely her emotions getting the better of her but in court it can easily discount her credability as a witness.
  • By the time she got out of the vehicle there were already 3 squad cars on site, usually during traffic stops that occur on our city roads there are 2 squad cars. The first pulls the person over and while the original officer is running plates he calls it in and a second car arrives. Most officers are alone so this is done for reasons of safety and so that they have an eyewitness if needed.