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Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

iirc, Pascal doesn't perform better in DX 12 than Maxwell. Pascal cards are more powerful and that also makes them more powerful in DX12, but the performance drop when switching from DX11 to DX12 for both families is pretty much the same.

And AMD cards don't gain when running DX12 games, they simply loss less performance than Nvidia cards. The same game run in DX 11 and DX 12 will run faster on DX 11, whether you're using an AMD or Nvidia card.

And it's worth keeping in mind that DX12 won't take over the PC gaming echosystem overnight, DX 11 will still be a thing for many, many years. Just look at DX9, which is still used nowadays. 

I'm not saying that you should choose a GPU looking only at today's games/performance, but you should be realistic. If you're thinking about replacing your card in 2-3 years, thinking about DX12 is pretty much useless.

Ehhhh??? They don't lose performance when switching from dx11 to dx12. At least not with properly optimized dx12 games and AMD...

*graphs*

And while I agree that dx12 won't take everything over overnight, I don't think it will take that long for dx12 to be used in more games. Virtually all games shown in MS press conference will certainly use dx12 which is quite a lot already. And those will start releasing from the Fall of this year. Then you have games from EA and SE using dx12. Dolphin and the wiiU emulators have upgraded to direct x 12 and saw massive gains in performance. Unity has added Direct x 12 support and the list goes on. We also saw what happened with badly optimized dx12 only games such as Quantum Break where it was unplayable with Nvidia cards for the longest time and the performance was half of AMDs.

And its not like either of these cards will perform badly in dx11... So I think people should really think about it before upgrading to a new card.

Edit: Ubisoft will also support Direct x 12 and their first game will be WatchDogs 2.

Hmm, I'll have to find where I read that DX12 performance drop :-/.

And the thing is that those DX12 games will also have DX11 modes. I take DX12 as a bonus option, not the main reason to get any card, at least right now.

And it's important to note that a 10-15% performance (we'll see how is that advantage) difference in DX11 is big enough to being able to enable "Ultra" instead of "Very High" graphics quality, to still being able to reach 60fps without having to dial down some graphic options.

If your plan is to use the card for 2-3 years, then focusing on DX11 results is the way to go, at least in my opinion.



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