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Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Ok, so you are only discussing the "all"... ok you win.

The price of the DVD player doesn't matter because you don't know how much was the premium, and you also didn't said what was the price of a capable Mini DVD at the time, not even asking for a fully capable.

I'm not lying to myself. With the right compression tools a lot the games on PS1 could fit on the cartridge. I'm not saying most, I'm saying a lot. They weren't there for some reasons, bad relationship, low sales of N64, lack of interest to invest the time to make it work, and of course for some of them, the cartridge limitation.

Price of full DVD player does matter because back then had high price, and I assume Nintendo wanted more affordable console.

Even with all those tools majority of games couldn't fit on max size of 64MB. Even with great sales, good relationship, interest...huge majority of gamers couldn't fit even if developers wanted. GC had around 50% worse sales than N64 had, but regardles GC had much better 3rd party suport.

 

If you relly want to know what are IMO Gaming's worst marketing/business decisions, this what I wrote:

-Sega- Releasing too many hardware in small amount of time.
-Nintendo- Staying with N64 cartridges (even back than that rely wasn't bad decision because every disk based console failed until PS1). Wii U revealing, marketing, naming, pricing, game pad, launch titles...bloody mess.
-Sony- PS3 $600 launch price, very complicated CPU. Vita, price, price of cards, 1st party content.
-MS- XB1, inital plans about DRM and block of used games, releasing console with higher price with less power than PS4.

I refuse to talk further on the price of the DVD player unless you show the price of either drive to be installed by gaming companies. Sony were able to use it and not price PS2 outside of GC price bracket and I already showed you that even though Bluray drive (which was much much more expensive than DVD drive) costed no more than 1/6 of the price of a BR player of the time, so I can't say that because there were BR players selling for over 1k that the drive costed 1k.

What are your evidences for not fitting? You were already shown that they were able to fit RE2 with all it's cutscenes on N64 and it took 2 CDs on PS1.

You listed the cartridge as their big fail, but insist on giving then a concession and refuses to recognize their bad relationship with developers from NES torwards today.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."