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Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Because no one is discussing HH (only you) at no point Nintendo dominance over HH was questioned.

Not being cheap at release doesn't mean it won't be cheap after. That is the basics of mass production. And the fee for the disc itself is minimal, how much of the Wii profits were eaten by DVD fees?

Nope, the biggest reason for GC cheap price was Nintendo desperation to sell. Please show me how much cheaper was the GC mini disc drive compared to a standard one (like PS2 or any other DVD player), because being non-standard I would guess that it costed about the same (even more when it wasn't all that different so the higher price would be only due to scale, but not down for using cheaper technology)

You think that their biggest mistake (it's up there), but bad relationship is even worse and that is the one that never left. Or do you think the bad relationship with Squaresoft took out FF VII from them (besides no CD for their cutscenes) and all the other third parties alike, and that even today Nintendo doesn't have any special relationship or even acceptable one with most developers and that is quite possibly the biggest reason for the low support? Or do you want to put Nintendo fanbase as their biggest mistake because they are the folks that doesn't buy the products available and them the devs have no interest to support?

So what!? l mentione most successful generation in history of gaming, you can't clearly do that if "all demons are still haunting them till this day".

Price with DVD player for GC would be higher in any case, on launch or at end of life, GC at end have price of $100. Wii didnt had classic DVD player and you can't really compare price of DVD in last generation and in generation before that.

Price of classic DVD player (PS2 basically had that) was definitely much higher than GC mini DVD player in that gen, lotsa people were buying PS2 use it like DVD player also.

Nintendo had bad relationship with 3rd party even with SNES and NES, buy both consoles were best selling in its genes. Like I wrote,bigest their mistake in history of their consoles was N64 cartridge format that could hold only 8-64MB compared to 700NB of CD, and guess what, they did not make same mistake with Wii U, so "all demons are still haunting them till this day" stament clearly isnt true, and thats whole my point.

Ok. So since this is the worse generation ever for Nintendo is that on the demons of the past or you will put them all on the mistakes of the present, that they are seemingly wanting to repeat?

What evidence do you have to say a standard piece of equipment would be much higher than the non-standard that performs the basic same function but with a different size? PS2 was under 100,00 as well and the price tag doesn't determine the cost to manufacture with clarity. I'm not comparing the price of DVD of gen 7 to gen 8, but since GC and PS2 were in the same gen I can compare both.

What mini DVD player was available at the market to purchase? Bluray players at PS3 launch were more expensive than PS3, does that mean that the bluray drive on PS3 was more expensive than the whole machine?

They had bad relationship, but had no real alternative in SNES or NES, as soon as that ended being the case they dropped nintendo really hard and haven't come back yet.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."