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Miyamotoo on 05 July 2016
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DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Why I would not include HH, I include them because last gen Nintendo with its HW has most successful generation in history of gaming, you can't clearly do that if "all demons are still haunting them till this day".

You realise that back then DVD player wasn't cheap eat all, you also realise that having classic DVD disc would make Nintendo pay fees!? GC had very afordible price, one of reasons for that is not having DVD player.

I gave you bigest their mistake in history of their consoles, N64 cartridge format that can hold only 8-64MB compared to 700NB of CD, and guess what, they did not make same mistake with Wii U, so "all demons are still haunting them till this day" clearly isnt true, and thats whole my point.

Because no one is discussing HH (only you) at no point Nintendo dominance over HH was questioned.

Not being cheap at release doesn't mean it won't be cheap after. That is the basics of mass production. And the fee for the disc itself is minimal, how much of the Wii profits were eaten by DVD fees?

Nope, the biggest reason for GC cheap price was Nintendo desperation to sell. Please show me how much cheaper was the GC mini disc drive compared to a standard one (like PS2 or any other DVD player), because being non-standard I would guess that it costed about the same (even more when it wasn't all that different so the higher price would be only due to scale, but not down for using cheaper technology)

You think that their biggest mistake (it's up there), but bad relationship is even worse and that is the one that never left. Or do you think the bad relationship with Squaresoft took out FF VII from them (besides no CD for their cutscenes) and all the other third parties alike, and that even today Nintendo doesn't have any special relationship or even acceptable one with most developers and that is quite possibly the biggest reason for the low support? Or do you want to put Nintendo fanbase as their biggest mistake because they are the folks that doesn't buy the products available and them the devs have no interest to support?

So what!? l mentione most successful generation in history of gaming, you can't clearly do that if "all demons are still haunting them till this day".

Price with DVD player for GC would be higher in any case, on launch or at end of life, GC at end have price of $100. Wii didnt had classic DVD player and you can't really compare price of DVD in last generation and in generation before that.

Price of classic DVD player (PS2 basically had that) was definitely much higher than GC mini DVD player in that gen, lotsa people were buying PS2 use it like DVD player also.

Nintendo had bad relationship with 3rd party even with SNES and NES, buy both consoles were best selling in its genes. Like I wrote,bigest their mistake in history of their consoles was N64 cartridge format that could hold only 8-64MB compared to 700NB of CD, and guess what, they did not make same mistake with Wii U, so "all demons are still haunting them till this day" stament clearly isnt true, and thats whole my point.