Playstation: 21 Million PS+ Subscribers

[DonFerrari]

Machiavellian said:

DonFerrari said:

Way to move the goalpost right?

But ok since we won't have anything fruitfull of this conversation I'll just say 21M users saw the value, you don't, ok.

Let me ask you this question.  Out of those 21M users, if asked if they see the value in adding MP to PS+ or do they feel they were forced to accept it since they bought a PS4.  I am not sure we are talking about the same thing.  If the PS3 was evident how people viewed PS+ when MP was free, I would say that people did not see the value of PS+ until Sony forced MP into the plan and thus games HAD to purchase it in order to play online.  If anything you prove my point that Online play had to be added to PS+ in order for Sony to sell the service.  Are you sure you are thinking your argument through.

If customer doesn't see value in the service they won't buy. You may say Sony sequestrated their right, but if they really though the service or the console hadn't value it wouldn't break all records as the fatest selling Playstation console. It really is as simple as that.

People see little value on WiiU, restricted value on X1 (need a lower price and still sell lot less) and a lot of value. If they think the MP is worth the 50 they pay for it, if not they would see alternatives... you just want me to answer a dumb question if I would preffer something for free or to pay. And the thing is, the answer doesn't need to be dumb, the answer will depend of the context. I preffer to pay a health insurance than to use the "free" service the government provides (altough I already pay for it through taxes) and IF I liked MP online and the choice would be free and bad versus cheap and good I would choose the second one.

And considering a lot of complaints were made about the quality of the free PSN but a lot less is made about the price of PSN+ I would say people have made their choice very clear. And if you want to deny that please show some evidence instead of saying that because you don't see value in it then there is no value.