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Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

most games are on pc with free multiplayer, so they have that choice (on Nintendo you won't have those games) so they have a choice, and funny thing, they choosen PS4 or X1.

Do you buy any Nintendo product? Because their profit margin is quite high so that would be a company being profitable at your expense, look at how much a MS or Sony game cost to produce and how many they sell compared to Nintendo and see which company is getting your money and which is giving you back. On PS3 have you felt bad that Sony was taking a loss so you could have a cheaper vg and so sent them a check of 200,00 usd for that loss when you bought your console?

On the PS3, I purchase the system because it had the games I wanted.  I care not if Sony took a loss on the system or made a profit.  If the price was outside of my range or I felt it was overprice I would not purchase the system.  Just like any consumer I evaluate my purchase based on preceived value.  If I do not see the value I do not make the purchase.  The same thing for PS+.  Online Peer to Peer MP does not need a service.  If there is a service there needs to be value added features.  If Sony only reason to add MP to PS+ is for Profit then they need to do better.  Just accepting what a company does and not push them to do more will always lead the company to complacentcy. 

Way to move the goalpost right?

But ok since we won't have anything fruitfull of this conversation I'll just say 21M users saw the value, you don't, ok.

Mummelmann said:
Barkley said:

It says in the image in the OP the 40 million figure is as of may 22nd. As it's a rounded figure the overtracking could be anywhere from 0 to 1 million. We'll just have to wait for Sony to give their next definitive figure.

We've been terrible at tracking the PS4 this year, Q1 was a full-fledged disaster.

Still not at the level you said a post ago.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."