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drkohler said:

I don't think you really know what you are trying to say.

Let's take any RX480 5.5TF card. It draws over 160W to achieve this as per all the reviews we see. This wattage is drawn by the mosfets (7phases, apparently) that run the gpu and the 8G memory, and 1-2 fans.

Now move over to the Ps4 Neo. What do we have additionally here that needs power?

a) a motherboard with all interfaces (HDMI, SATA, USB2, IR, etc).

b) a cpu assembly (probably 6-8 cores Zen lite) needing its own mosfets (2-3 phases).

c) all the rest of the good stuff (something like a Soutthbridge/an arm processor with memory, a harddisk, a blu-ray drive, etc).

All this would bring you to way over 200W which is an absolute no-no for a console. You won't believe it but there actually are laws (at least in Europe) that regulate how much power a console is allowed to draw....

And if you are puzzled by the PS4's psu, a generic psu is best operated around 50-60% of its tpu rating, that is well known and you can see that in every data sheet of every generic psu. Unless it is an expensive psu tailor made for running at 90%+. You'll never find such a thing in a console.

The fat PS3 had a power draw of around 200W+ in some games. And had a PSU of 320W. 

And before you go saying i don't know what i am trying to say, the whole poont of what I was saying was that nothing stops sony or MS from making a "premium" console that requires more then 250W to run. You are talking abiut watts like there is some sort of law they are all to abide by. 

And that stuff you said about laws in europe? Get your facts right. The laws don't prohibit anything, just puts the products in different tax brackets. A console like any other electronic is just that, an electronic device. So basically, sony pays more on tax in europe if they go as high as a certian wattage. 

If you look at just the GPU, it wouldnt require more than 100-110W to power. Now for somy, all other components on the board (including the low power arm processor) and the CPU can all fit in nicely with a 100W power draw bringing the total draw of the system to 200-230W. 

doesnt sound that impossible anymore does it? Mind you, i am not even saying this is the route they would take or that the console is this or that powerful. Just pointing out that what you are saying about power draw is misleading.