PS4 Neo Could Be 5.5tf ($399 - $599)

[DonFerrari]

drkohler said:

Intrinsic said:

What is it with people these days? Now its power supply? smh

A discrete GPU recieving power is recieving power for eveerything in the GPU. Chip, memory and fan and any other electrical component in there. I mean memory alone can draw up to 20W!!!! And are you aware that even if the PS4 uses around 90-150W in total poeer right now its PSU is rated at 230-250W?

I don't think you really know what you are trying to say.

Let's take any RX480 5.5TF card. It draws over 160W to achieve this as per all the reviews we see. This wattage is drawn by the mosfets (7phases, apparently) that run the gpu and the 8G memory, and 1-2 fans.

Now move over to the Ps4 Neo. What do we have additionally here that needs power?

a) a motherboard with all interfaces (HDMI, SATA, USB2, IR, etc).

b) a cpu assembly (probably 6-8 cores Zen lite) needing its own mosfets (2-3 phases).

c) all the rest of the good stuff (something like a Soutthbridge/an arm processor with memory, a harddisk, a blu-ray drive, etc).

All this would bring you to way over 200W which is an absolute no-no for a console. You won't believe it but there actually are laws (at least in Europe) that regulate how much power a console is allowed to draw....

And if you are puzzled by the PS4's psu, a generic psu is best operated around 50-60% of its tpu rating, that is well known and you can see that in every data sheet of every generic psu. Unless it is an expensive psu tailor made for running at 90%+. You'll never find such a thing in a console.

PS3 fat from what I saw had draw of 209Watts for FF13 and because it's power supply was over 250W it need a 3 point plug. So yes, there are laws for consumption, but I don't think it would prohibit the specs you are putting. And the 160W from the review is for the PC version probably feeding things that the Console won't use so all this package you made will probably end up bellow 200W and even if it's a little over no problem.

GribbleGrunger said:

DonFerrari said:

I guess MS can launch a Scorpio or Xbox line of desktop/notebook or even their version of steambox, but I don't think they would go full PC on the Xbox line of gaming devices, but if they end up doing a desktop/notebook from MS ok.

We'll have to wait and see but I'm not the only person to suggest MS are moving away from their console business, and if MS can persuade XB owners that power is all you need then transitioning them over to PC becomes much easier. Thing like the controllers in the new XB1s having blu-tooth so they can be used easily with PC, Kinect being dropped and replaced with the PC centric Cortana, all XB1 games being made available to PCs, MS talking about the possibility of the XB OS being made available to other PC manufacturers and a Forza exclusive game for Windows 10, are all possible indications that MS are in fact slowly letting the console business fizzle out.

I have a feeling that when Scorpio releases, the media and forum users will be discussing whether it's a console or a PC.

So let's play the wait and see games... since I care for PS but not Xbox, if they decide to abandon console world and make their steambox version I couldn't care less.